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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:21 am
by I'm Murrin
Dune isn't as amazing as people make it out to be. Incredible worldbuilding. Bad characterisation.
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:53 am
by Fist and Faith
Dune is every bit as amazing as people make it out to be. One of the great masterpieces.
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:58 am
by I'm Murrin
...Of plotting and worldbuilding.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:33 pm
by Shaun das Schaf
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:46 pm
by Vraith
Shaun das Schaf wrote:FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
Have to be a tag-team...maybe a free for all Watch brawl.
I'm on F&F's side.
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:19 am
by Menolly
...and I'm on Murrin's.
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:52 am
by Shaun das Schaf
And I haven't read Dune yet, so I'm going to get drunk and yell encouraging abuse from the sidelines.
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:02 am
by StevieG
Shaun das Schaf wrote:And I haven't read Dune yet, so I'm going to get drunk and yell encouraging abuse from the sidelines.
I'm with you there Shauny (and you know it

) bring it!!
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:00 pm
by Shaun das Schaf
I've just finished
Flowers For Algernon. I REALLY liked it. Sad though. And I can't help thinking, like post-op Charlie, that I can only ever scratch the surface of the surface of the iterating surface of all the great books out there. Or maybe I just need an operashun to make me capable of reading at Avatar pace
Also, does anyone else feel disrespectful when they finish a book that really moved them and just launch straight into something else? I feel like I should savour something, or at least let the story settle in me for a bit.
Instead, like the binge-reader I am, I'm posting to say I'm currently reading David Zindell's
Neverness.
P.S. StevieG, I don't think we're helping our country's stereotype as a land of sunburnt yobbos, but I'm glad you'll be drinking and yelling ringside with me.
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:51 pm
by ussusimiel
Vraith wrote:Shaun das Schaf wrote:FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
Have to be a tag-team...maybe a free for all Watch brawl.
I'm on F&F's side.
As some one who's stuck halfway through
Deadhouse Gates, I'm on Muffin's, ahem, Murrin's side
u.
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:21 pm
by Vraith
Shaun das Schaf wrote:I've just finished Flowers For Algernon. I REALLY liked it.
It's on my all-time list.
Lot's of interesting tidbits on it. [have I mentioned these before somewhere? seems familiar] For instance the initial potential publishers for BOTH the short story and the novel tried to get the ending changed to happy...author refused in both cases.
There's a pretty good movie of it from the 60's...I think it got an Oscar in some category, I know it was nominated.
There's a good play version of it.
And a musical.
Several radio and at least one made for t.v. too.
Anyway, just finished Pratchett "Sourcery."
It's amazing that he can keep being funny through so many books and in the same "comic fantasy" genre.
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:07 pm
by I'm Murrin
ussusimiel wrote:Vraith wrote:Shaun das Schaf wrote:FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
Have to be a tag-team...maybe a free for all Watch brawl.
I'm on F&F's side.
As some one who's stuck halfway through
Deadhouse Gates, I'm on Muffin's, ahem, Murrin's side
u.
Whaaa~? Deadhouse Gates is excellent, get moving!
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:38 pm
by ussusimiel
I'm Murrin wrote:Whaaa~? Deadhouse Gates is excellent, get moving!
Hey! I'm on your side!
Maybe we can get it put on our book club's reading list
u.
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:16 am
by Fist and Faith
You try to be on one of our sides, and we're gonna pull the ol' switcheroo on ya! Just read DG, the rest of Malazan, then Dune. Don't post again until you're done.
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:06 am
by Menolly
Flowers for Algernon is another story originally published in The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction that I remember reading in my Daddy's collection of them, along with the original serialized version of King's The Gunslinger.
I believe the movie version was called Charley (Charlie?).
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:28 am
by Shaun das Schaf
Charly without the 'e', so my work colleagues tell me. And it was Cliff Robertson who won the Oscar for Best Actor. Not sure whether I want to watch the film. I'm not great with films based on books I've read. Ok if I see the film first, risky if it's the other way around.
That's interesting about the pressure to change the ending Vraith. Would have been a crazy move though, take all the gut punch out of it. Glad Keyes stood his ground. I did know about the musical and the album, but not the play. I can imagine it would make a great play, a musical not so much.
And U, I've already stated my preferences for yelling from the sidelines, but you're seriously tempting me to join the brawl. (So long as I can bring my drink with me.) Deadhouse Gates is my favorite Malazan book.
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:23 am
by Avatar
Read Carl Hiaasen's Nature Girl, (not fantasy), then The Hobbit, followed by the new book 1 of Chung Kuo, Son of Heaven. Now I'm on book 2, Daylight on Iron Mountain.
--A
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:26 pm
by ussusimiel
Fist and Faith wrote:You try to be on one of our sides, and we're gonna pull the ol' switcheroo on ya! Just read DG, the rest of Malazan, then Dune. Don't post again until you're done.
Ouch! Just been Faithed
I've read
Dune a couple of times. Good book, but I've never felt the need to read anymore in the series.
u.
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:14 pm
by Fist and Faith
Excellent choice on "Faithed"!
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:24 pm
by wayfriend
Chung Kuo! Holy crap! I gave up on that series after seven or eight [very thick] books. I guess I like my serieses to have conclusions.