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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:35 pm
by Cagliostro
Cameraman Jenn wrote:Well I meant Georgia O'Keefe. :D
Oh, her. She just draws pictures of vaginas.

But she is dead sexy in several of the Stieglitz photos.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:08 pm
by Cameraman Jenn
Hmmm..... steer skulls are vaginal eh? 8O

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:12 pm
by aliantha
See, that's what I mean about the flower pictures. Everybody sees them, and the Stiglitz nudes, and thinks she's all about sex. Not pointing fingers, Cag -- just sayin'. They actually made a point of talking about this in the intro film at the O'Keeffe Museum in Santa Fe. It annoyed O'Keeffe that people would look at her flower pics and judge them as sensuous because of the nude photos. She was interested in forms and flowing lines and stuff. She wasn't trying for erotic at all.

This has been a public service announcement. :lol:

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:48 pm
by sgt.null
aliantha wrote: she's all about sex.

This has been a public service announcement. :lol:
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:51 pm
by rdhopeca
sgt.null wrote:
aliantha wrote: she's all about sex.

This has been a public service announcement. :lol:
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It's called "Ram's Head"? as in, ram your....?

8O

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:11 am
by Cameraman Jenn
It's called "Ram's Head" because it's a painting of the skull and horns of a dead ram.... sheesh people. :P OH MY GOD!!!!! I just realized the end of the world is upon us! I, Cameraman Jenn, just admitted and even argued that something exists that is NOT about sex. 8O 8O 8O :P

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:16 am
by Sorus
Darnit, Jenn - if you're going to end the world do it on a Monday. :evil:

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:18 am
by Cameraman Jenn
It's just the first sign that the end is near. I'm sure we have a little time left before the universe comes crashing down. :D

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:51 am
by Menolly
Cameraman Jenn wrote:It's just the first sign that the end is near. I'm sure we have a little time left before the universe comes crashing down. :D
*nod*

Just under four years, according to the Mayans...

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:55 am
by Wyldewode
aliantha wrote:Zackly. I'm not so wild about her (ubiquitous :roll:) flowers, but her New Mexico stuff really grabs me. It was so amazing to me to find out, two summers ago, that her landscape colors are accurate. I never got the whole "colors of the desert" concept until we drove up to Valles Caldera. And thanks again for taking us there, Danlo the Manlo. :)
I think it's great that she painter flowers because she couldn't afford to pay models, and flowers sat still where she placed them. :)
Menolly wrote:Just under four years, according to the Mayans...
Someone told me about Discovery Channel program about the the earth passing the "equator" of the universe and how they think it will reverse the magnetic fields of the earth causing all sorts of doom. . . and this is supposed to happen on the day that the Mayan calendar ends.

Personally, I'm not going to get too worried over it. :P

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:58 am
by Loredoctor
About the Mayan Calendar End of the World myth:
Prophecies about the end of the world (or at the very least, civilisation as we know it) have been around forever. There was a flurry of them around 2000 AD, and another bunch for 5 May 2005, when all the planets were supposed to line up. (By the way, they didn't line up and yep, we're still here.)

The Mayan civilisation covered the skinny bit of the Americas between North and South America, reaching from the southern states of Mexico down to western Honduras. Its Classic Period was from 250 to 900 AD, so their best years were behind them by the time of the Spanish invasion.

At their peak, the Mayans had the only mature written language ever found in the Americas, spectacular and densely populated cities, and very sophisticated systems of mathematics, astronomy and calendars.

They were marvelous astronomers, showing what could be done with the naked eye. Their measurements of the lunar month, the period of Venus and the year were more accurate than those of the Ancient Greeks.

Which brings us to the calendar that predicts the end of the world in 2012.

The Mayans had many calendars, because they saw 'time' as a meshing of sacred or spiritual cycles. So while our Gregorian calendar organises days for social, administrative and commercial purposes, the Mayan calendars added a religious element. For example, each day had a patron spirit, and so could be good for travel, but bad for business.

One of their several calendars was called the Long Count. It was set up around 355 BCE, and had as its chosen starting date 0.0.0.0.0, which corresponds to 11 August 3114 BCE. And on 21 December 2012, the Mayan Long Count calendar will read 13.0.0.0.0.

Now here's how it works. Our numbering system is based on 10. But the Mayans had a counting system based on 20, so most of the 'slots' in their calendar had 20 potential numbers (0 to 19). The calendar read a little like the odometer in your car's speedo (which run from 0 to 9). The extreme right slot (of five slots) would count through the days, and when it got to 19 days (0.0.0.0.19) would reset to zero, and the next slot across to the left would increase by one (to 0.0.0.1.0).

So 0.0.0.0.1 was one day, and 0.0.0.1.0 was 20 days. Then 0.0.1.0.0 was about one year, 0.1.0.0.0 was about 20 years and with 1.0.0.0.0, you've clocked up about 400 years. And on 21 December 2012, the Mayan Long Count calendar will read 13.0.0.0.0.

By the way, the time between 0.0.0.0.0 and 13.0.0.0.0 is about 5126 years. Now some Mayan archaeo-astronomers reckon that the calendar should reset back to zero and start again. But others disagree and say it should continue to 20, and then reset again.

We don't have enough information to know who is correct - but if it does go up to 20, then this completely destroys the End of Days Conspiracy Theory, as far as the year 2012 is concerned. But let's stick to the 13 Conspiracy for the time being.

The claims for 21 December 2012 cover a lot of ground. They range from 'nuclear holocaust' to 'Harmonic Convergence of cosmic energy flowing through the earth, cleansing it and raising it to a higher level of vibration', and along the way they include 'the death of two-thirds of humanity' and 'the north and south poles will split' - you get the picture.

But there are two problems with this.

First, when a calendar comes to the end of a cycle, it just rolls over into the next cycle. In our Western society, every year 31 December is followed, not by the End of the World, but by 1 January. So 13.0.0.0.0 in the Mayan calendar will be followed by 0.0.0.0.1 - or good-ol' 22 December 2012, with only a few shopping days left to Christmas.

And the second problem is that it is always remarkably difficult to make predictions, especially about the future, and things that haven't happened yet.

Dr Karl Kruszelnicki

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:04 am
by Menolly
Besides, the world can't end before the final book of The Last Chronicles is released. Just can't happen.

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:08 am
by Wyldewode
Very interesting (and enlightening) article. Thanks, Loremaster!

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:26 am
by Sorus
Menolly wrote:Besides, the world can't end before the final book of The Last Chronicles is released. Just can't happen.
This was in the GI a couple of years ago...
Michael Hand: I have been a major fan ever since first picking up Lord Fouls Bane, and have read the first and second chronicles countless times. I was ecstatic to hear of the release of the first book in the last chronicles.

I am perturbed, however, about the release date of the last book in the 'Last Chronicles'. On www.kevinswatch.com, the release date for 'The Last Dark' is shown as 2013.

According to the Mayan prophecies the world is going to end in December 2012 which means we are all going to miss out on the last book.

Would it be possible for you to have the series complete so we can all read the conclusion before the end of the world?





It's possible that "human error" has led to a few small miscalculations about when the end of the world will actually occur. I see no reason to believe that the publication of "The Last Dark" won't coincide exactly with (or even cause) the end of the world. <grin>
(05/28/2006)

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:01 am
by Menolly
*covered grin*
...yeah...I was thinking of that as I posted...

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:56 pm
by aliantha
sgt.null wrote:
aliantha wrote: she's all about sex.

This has been a public service announcement. :lol:
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:haha:

One of these days, Sarge, I'm gonna get you for that....

:haha:

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:02 pm
by lurch
..the fecundity of her mind is evident, a reflection of her perspective perhaps.

But..today i will go clean up all the fecundity of the carab tree in the front yard. The carab beans will herded by a new and improved Toro. YeeeHAAA!

Move 'em on, head 'em up,
Head 'em up, move 'em out,
Move 'em on, head 'em out Rawhide!

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:48 am
by Cameraman Jenn
Well, I started to feel like crap warmed over on Thursday. I tried to sweat it out. Friday I survived but Friday night I bundled up for more sweating. The flu got me. I've been down and out since Friday night. The only times I have gotten up were to replenish the water bottle at my bedside and to walk the Moose. Tonight it feels like the fever broke. I took my temp. It's still 100.2. I took it at one point Saturday and I was running 103. I still feel weak and shaky but at least my skin is not still uber sensitive and I can feel every hair folicle on my head and my body so achy I can't even stand being snugged by my doggles. I feel exhausted, weak and like my brain is in a plastic bag. The sinus stuff has been greatly knocked back by my saline snorting during my lucid moments but I've got a deep deep chest hack which is producing some lovely stuff even though I dont' feel congested. In fact my lungs feel like they are slightly seared. Ugh. Hello new job. Frack. My eye muscles hurt and my sockets burn. I stink a weird stink. I forced myself to shower today and yet I smell like sweat and apple pomegranete juice and something metallic. Flu sucks.

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:47 am
by Menolly
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ugh, sounds like what I had for three weeks last month, and is still lingering ever so slightly as a cough.

As you told me at the time...
Fluids.
Lots and lots of fluids.

Feel well soon, girlfriend.

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:08 pm
by Sorus
Ugh, Jenn... feel better.

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