Kevin's Watch

Posted: **Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:53 am**

Happy Birthday, Xar!!

Posted: **Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:34 pm**

Stonemaybe wrote:Do we REALLy have a birth date for the Allfather????

The AllFather precedes time and the measurement thereof. Only one outside of time could command Koel.

Posted: **Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:51 pm**

But he chooses to command none of us...

Posted: **Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:58 pm**

Posted: **Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:59 pm**

He chooses to phrase his commands as statements. He is no less in charge.

Posted: **Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:05 pm**

The Numen wrote:He chooses to phrase his commands as statements. He is no less in charge.

Now that is Truthfully stated.

Murrin wrote:Ha.

Anything you care to share, Murrin?

...yeah, yeah, I know. Dream on...

Posted: **Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:22 pm**

Surely, the All-Father controls and commands one of our nearest and dearest -

Zephyr.

Posted: **Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:11 pm**

Menolly wrote:
Murrin wrote:Ha.
Anything you care to share, Murrin?

...yeah, yeah, I know. Dream on...

Menolly wrote:But he chooses to command none of us...

Ha.

(So, uh, the concept is, posts below respond to those above. Tough, I know.)

Posted: **Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:21 pm**

Murrin wrote:(So, uh, the concept is, posts below respond to those above. Tough, I know.)

I meant, anything you care to share regarding that "Ha" in response to me saying The AllFather chooses to command none of us...

Arcadia wrote:Surely, the All-Father controls and commands one of our nearest and dearest -

Zephyr.

OK, I'll give you that one.

Posted: **Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:22 pm**

I think "ha" pretty much sums my feelings on that up. Besides, the Numen came along and stated it outright, so why should I need to repeat it?

Posted: **Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:33 pm**

hmm...
I was hoping more for details as to why you feel "Ha" sums up your feelings regarding that. But, cool.

I don't see being ultimately in charge necessarily as commanding the players; while we may not succeed at something, we are allowed to try various things of our own imagination. So, I disagree with the assessment that he does command us.

But I have heard of some players who justifiably may disagree with that...

Posted: **Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:12 am**

Just, ah, don't bother trying not to do what he wants you to. It can be entertaining, but it's not very good for your plans.

Posted: **Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:44 am**

Murrin wrote:Just, ah, don't bother trying not to do what he wants you to. It can be entertaining, but it's not very good for your plans.

That's pretty similar to what I have heard...

Posted: **Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:28 am**

Arcadia wrote:Surely, the All-Father controls and commands one of our nearest and dearest -

Zephyr.

I know you are, but what am I.

Posted: **Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:07 am**

Menolly wrote:hmm...
I was hoping more for details as to why you feel "Ha" sums up your feelings regarding that. But, cool.

I don't see being ultimately in charge necessarily as commanding the players; while we may not succeed at something, we are allowed to try various things of our own imagination. So, I disagree with the assessment that he does command us.

But I have heard of some players who justifiably may disagree with that...

As is only appropriate for one who is to us mere gods as we are to mere mortals, the AllFather does not stoop to the mere giving of commands and the expectation of obedience. He takes an approach that is far beyond, but similar in form to what George Orwell described in 1984, when he theorized that by limiting the vocabulary of the people, Big Brother could limit their ability to even conceive of disloyalty. By deciding on the shape of the world in which we exist, the AllFather may dictate to us our actions, and we will all act the way he "commands" us to, all entirely of our own free wills. This is beyond obedience or disobedience. We simply perform his bidding.

Posted: **Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:12 am**

The King in The Little Prince knew how to rule!

Posted: **Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:28 pm**

The Numen wrote:
Menolly wrote:hmm...
I was hoping more for details as to why you feel "Ha" sums up your feelings regarding that. But, cool.

I don't see being ultimately in charge necessarily as commanding the players; while we may not succeed at something, we are allowed to try various things of our own imagination. So, I disagree with the assessment that he does command us.

But I have heard of some players who justifiably may disagree with that...
As is only appropriate for one who is to us mere gods as we are to mere mortals, the AllFather does not stoop to the mere giving of commands and the expectation of obedience. He takes an approach that is far beyond, but similar in form to what George Orwell described in 1984, when he theorized that by limiting the vocabulary of the people, Big Brother could limit their ability to even conceive of disloyalty. By deciding on the shape of the world in which we exist, the AllFather may dictate to us our actions, and we will all act the way he "commands" us to, all entirely of our own free wills. This is beyond obedience or disobedience. We simply perform his bidding.

OR, perhaps you just ....I'm not even gonna finish that sentence, otherwise Brid'll get such a kick up the...

^yeah, what they said!

Posted: **Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:48 pm**

I'm sorry I haven't been around lately, but I've been busy due to my father's surgery and recovery... My brother and I have been helping around 24/7. Anyway, I'll be back to HD next week, and I promise I'll have these results out by then! Hope you're all still with me

Posted: **Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:28 pm**

A Blessed Holy Week to you in the meantime, Xar.
Have a Happy Easter.

Posted: **Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:57 pm**

Have a great Easter. Good job focusing on the family!! We should and will wait for things to quiet down for you.

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