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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:08 am
by Xar
Since this seems to be a common problem, I'd like to point out that just because you want to know something, it doesn't mean you can just throw your power at it and make it work. You need to ask the right questions, or at least you need to ask your questions the right way.

Imagine a god secretly used an artifact to create an earthquake in the Shattered Lands. Another god whose followers were grievously injured wants to know why the earthquake happened, but of course he/she doesn't know it was the work of a deity through an artifact. He/she wants to finds out what the problem is, and sends an order like this: "I use 1 DRP to find out where the faults in the earth's crust are that caused the earthquakes, then another 2 DRPs to seal them so no more earthquakes occur".

Since there are no faults to be detected, his/her first order turns out to be useless; the 2 DRPs meant to seal the faults, then, also are wasted.

On the other hand, if he/she said "I use 1 DRP to find out what the heck happened in the Shattered Lands", that question is fairly generic; there is a chance it might bring up a different answer (i.e. "a lot of stuff is happening there, there's a war to the south, famine in the north, an earthquake just struck"). However, the more DRPs one invested in the question, the more in-depth the answer would be (assuming one spent, say, 3 DRPs, the answer could be "there's a war in the south between the God of Cookies and the God of Warm Milk, with the God of Honey trying to help the latter, who is losing badly at the moment; famine in the north due to a shortage of food caused by the spoiling of crops due to vermin such as locusts; and an earthquake just struck which was not natural in origin, and bore signs of divine power, as well as resonating with ancient energies from an item of power")

And of course, if one asked "I use 1 DRP to find out the cause of the earthquake in the Shattered Lands", the answer would be less expensive.

All I'm saying is... assumptions are dangerous because if you base an action on them, and they are wrong, the action is wasted. On the other hand, a generic action will yield only a generic result unless one pours in a lot of DRPs. A balance must be struck between how much you want to risk and how much you want to spend.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:28 pm
by Menolly
If I may ask for just a little more clarification regarding this...

It seems to me when one is weaker, or at least first starting out, that it is easier to learn things or accomplish things with fewer DRP expenditure. I admit, if one loses DRP due to a crises of the faith or loss of followers, the expense does not seem to go back down.

So, I don't know...
Were the things being attempted when one first started less expensive in terms of power? Or is my perception of what happens off?

which, yet again, would not surprise me

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:54 am
by Xar
Menolly wrote:If I may ask for just a little more clarification regarding this...

It seems to me when one is weaker, or at least first starting out, that it is easier to learn things or accomplish things with fewer DRP expenditure. I admit, if one loses DRP due to a crises of the faith or loss of followers, the expense does not seem to go back down.

So, I don't know...
Were the things being attempted when one first started less expensive in terms of power? Or is my perception of what happens off?

which, yet again, would not surprise me
At the beginning of the game, when you were weaker, did you ever spend your lone DRP to study a mysterious world-spanning event? No, because you didn't have the power to waste that way. At most, you studied events directly related to your people - very localized ones, perhaps the reason for a famine or who was that guy who was spreading lies about you.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:33 am
by Fist and Faith
Don't look now, folks, but tomorrow is deadline!!! Most of you will be getting a txt in the next couple hours anyway, but I figured I'd do this extra reminder for Bel and Dagon. :lol:

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:42 am
by I'm Murrin
I wasn't planning to forget.


I never do.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:53 am
by Fist and Faith
I'm sure not. Indeed, I had absolute faith that you would not plan to forget.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:23 pm
by I'm Murrin
Wait, what? Tomorrow?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:28 pm
by Menolly
Murrin wrote:Wait, what? Tomorrow?
:spew:

I will express my heartfelt appreciation that the deadline reminder text I received did not arrive at the crack of dawn.

EDT

...not so sure how any of our west coast players may have felt, if their's arrived at 5:30 am PDT.

And thanks for the clarification, AllFather.
That does make a bit more sense.
*bows*

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:28 pm
by Avatar
Oh hell, I thought it was the day after. No probs. :D

(But thanks Fist.)

--A

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:06 pm
by Menolly
Avatar wrote:Oh hell, I thought it was the day after. No probs. :D

(But thanks Fist.)
Good thing Fist did post, as the AllFather is no longer taking any late submittals.

Yay! But now watch me forget to send in mine tomorrow, or have computer issues or something... ;)

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:29 pm
by Madadeva
Murrin wrote:I wasn't planning to forget.


I never do.
Never do plan to forget ... but I believe forgot to turn in once ... in a unplanned way! :biggrin:

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:46 pm
by I'm Murrin
Because explaining the joke always makes it funnier!

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:03 pm
by Goatkiller666
Is funny 'cause is true.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:43 pm
by Madadeva
Sent!

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:41 am
by The Numen
Sent.

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 5:15 am
by Simjen
Sent

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:22 pm
by O-gon-cho
Sent...

Image ...and I hope with all my heart not to hear this again from The AllFather because of my action... Image

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:59 pm
by Fist and Faith
I truly enjoy getting txts from various among you telling me you sent your turn in. :D :lol:

Also good that my txts and the post here to remind everyone of deadline really are useful. I get return txts about that too. heh

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:07 pm
by Xar
Don't be too quick to rejoice, not everyone has sent the turn...

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:31 pm
by Rothmog
hi guys! as you can see Uncle Rothmog isn't much present in the game since a while... it is just because Real Life events are taking me away from any kind of game i'm trying to play... :P

so i'm afraid, but i have to leave the game. i hope you all understand. i'm sure you all will have a lot of fun playing pantheon for the few days that remain to Eiran (evil laugh here).

Take care my friends!