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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:10 am
by Relayer
Lord Foul wrote:Relayer wrote:I'm not a Belew fan per se... but I love his work w/ Talking Heads and Bowie.
I've heard
Inner Revolution and
Here, two solo albums by Belew, are excellent (if you like Beatle-esque stuff). They're from the early 90s and sound nothing like
Thrak or his previous 80s stuff.
I might have to check those out.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:24 pm
by Zarathustra
Clouseau wrote:Damn, you need to slide me some mp3's of that!
What the f*ck is an mp3???
Seriously, all my music resides on these cool shiny silver platters modeled after some "discs of knowledge" on the original Star Trek series (a.k.a. "CDs"). I'm sure it's easy to create an mp3, but I've never done it.
Anyway, I'm afraid I'd get sued by the RIAA if I shared with you, so can't help you out there.

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:26 pm
by Zarathustra
I just found something cool on youtube. This has some bad audio, but it's Belew playing a live version of Within You and Without You (Harrison's tune off St. Pepper). I swear, this man can make his guitar sound like
anything he wants.
[Edit: sorry, forgot to post the link]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVhYAKD_TuA&feature=related
[Edit #1.5 Alright, this one has MUCH better sound.]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcH5BWgcrjE&feature=related
[Edit #2, ok, this is
the most retarded thing I've ever seen. You have to see it to believe it. Belew, what were you thinking?]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD09qQjHXsw&feature=related
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:23 pm
by Relayer
Damn, that's cool! (the first one, that is)
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:32 pm
by Zarathustra
Relayer wrote:Damn, that's cool! (the first one, that is)
The second one is much longer, but cleaner sound.
Clouseau, here's a clip from his solo tour. It doesn't have Les and Danny, though. And the live version really doesn't do it justice. But here it is, mistakes and all. (Sounds very much like Crimson.)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cou8XY9MSyo&feature=related
I swear, he sounds like two guitarists at the same time. Just one man. When you can play more notes than two "regular" guitarists, and still sing on top of that, you're Adrian Belew!!!
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:17 pm
by dANdeLION
On "Within You Without You" he's using a looper pedal to repeat his chord and then solos over it. It's really cool, but it got me to thinking maybe you'd like to hear Phil Keaggy if you like that, so I'm gonna attach some Youtubes and then listen to that last one there.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3iSiij98VY
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwq0i6jP7dQ&feature=related
That second one is pretty mind-blowing.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:55 pm
by Zarathustra
Phil is also using an ebow, which Belew is not.
I've seen the looping thing before. Victor Wooten uses it during his bass solos with Bela Fleck. It's pretty cool.
Beautiful music, btw. Thanks!
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:44 pm
by Relayer
Malik23 wrote:Relayer wrote:Damn, that's cool! (the first one, that is)
The second one is much longer, but cleaner sound.
Actually, that's the one I meant...
If you like guys that do looping, you might also want to ck out Keller Williams. I've seen him do some insane stuff w/ multiple loops.
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:39 pm
by perpetualchange
Menolly wrote:My own taste for King Crimson is limited to their early stuff.
I love In the Court of the Crimson King (especially Epitaph) and like In the Wake of Poseidon and Lizard.
I fully agree,the later King Crimson was not to my liking.I would add Larks' Tongue in Aspic to that list though.

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:19 am
by Menolly
*blushing*
Glad you found the thread, perpetualchange (still
love that user name).
~*~edit~*~
*carried over from the "What are you listening to?" thread*
perpetualchange wrote:Prog,prog and more prog,but more specifically Yes' Going for the One
*happy sigh*
What was known as side two back in the LP days, basically
Wondrous Stories followed by
Awaken, is one of my all time favorite nearly 20 minutes in recorded music.
Only beaten by Pink Floyd's
Echoes and topped by Jon Anderson's entire
Olias of Sunhillow.
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:04 am
by perpetualchange
Menolly wrote:*blushing*
Glad you found the thread, perpetualchange (still
love that user name).
~*~edit~*~
*carried over from the "What are you listening to?" thread*
perpetualchange wrote:Prog,prog and more prog,but more specifically Yes' Going for the One
*happy sigh*
What was known as side two back in the LP days, basically
Wondrous Stories followed by
Awaken, is one of my all time favorite nearly 20 minutes in recorded music.
Only beaten by Pink Floyd's
Echoes and topped by Jon Anderson's entire
Olias of Sunhillow.
YES! Wonderous Stories always sends me.And Awaken is quite beautiful,I'm not ashamed to say that song(along with a few others)can bring me to tears from time to time.

Echoes is beautiful,especially Fearless.Why didn't I find this Forum earlier?I think I'm gonna have to go listen to And You and I now.
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:49 pm
by dANdeLION
Malik23 wrote:Phil is also using an ebow, which Belew is not.
I fail to see any relevance here....Belew has all ten fingers, Keaggy does not; still, it's irrelevant to the fact that both of them can do things with their guitars that amaze most other musicians.
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:22 pm
by Zarathustra
Clouseau wrote:Malik23 wrote:Phil is also using an ebow, which Belew is not.
I fail to see any relevance here....Belew has all ten fingers, Keaggy does not; still, it's irrelevant to the fact that both of them can do things with their guitars that amaze most other musicians.
I wasn't trying to say that one was better than the other, just that they're not doing the same thing. I thought by this statement: "It's really cool, but it got me to thinking maybe you'd like to hear Phil Keaggy if you like that, . . . " you were implying that their technique was the same or similar. I was just pointing out the biggest difference that struck me right away.
Phil is really good, and I'm always grateful for the chance to hear something new (and good!). Thanks!
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:59 pm
by perpetualchange
Am I the only one here who sees a connection between the love of the land that the people of the land have and the lyrics of Yes?
I cannot think of one without thinking of the other.
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:37 pm
by dANdeLION
I don't connect the lyrics of Yes to any book. I've always considered thier stuff to be stories unto themselves, like early Genesis, early Rush, Pink Floyd, and Spock's Beard. I do, however, associate Zeppelin with Tolkien, for obvious reasons. Holocaust made a cd about the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, but, to put it bluntly, it's not nearly prog enough for me to get into it.
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:52 pm
by Usivius
perpetualchange wrote:Am I the only one here who sees a connection between the love of the land that the people of the land have and the lyrics of Yes?
I cannot think of one without thinking of the other.
not only do I think the music of Yes is linked to elves, I think Jon Anderson is an elf himself! Always felt that Yes was elf music in deguise. The lyrics and Anderson's voice and the way he allows the words to float over the fantastic music ... I am right there in Rivendell ... not necessarily a LotR thing, but an "elf-music" thing.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:10 pm
by Zarathustra
Usivius wrote:perpetualchange wrote:Am I the only one here who sees a connection between the love of the land that the people of the land have and the lyrics of Yes?
I cannot think of one without thinking of the other.
not only do I think the music of Yes is linked to elves, I think Jon Anderson is an elf himself! Always felt that Yes was elf music in deguise. The lyrics and Anderson's voice and the way he allows the words to float over the fantastic music ... I am right there in Rivendell ... not necessarily a LotR thing, but an "elf-music" thing.

Interesting. I remember a rumor that Yes was going to be doing music for Jackson's trilogy, and I got very excited. I wish they'd been given a chance at this.
I don't really associate their music with the Land. Sure, Starship Trooper has a few lines that sound appropriate, but in terms of the feel of the music, it always reminds me of Tolkien. Perhaps that's because I think of Tolkien as "high fantasy," whereas I sometimes forget that Donaldson's work is fantasy at all. It seems much more real (Covenant and Linden coming from the real world help with that impression). I don't associate any music with the Chronicles.
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:13 pm
by danlo
I think they create their own Land and only Roger Dean has come close to depicting it-this includes Olijas (Pam).
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:23 pm
by Menolly
No argument from me.
Although my favorite album covers by Dean are
Yessongs and
Tales from Topographic Oceans.
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:42 pm
by lucimay
Malik23 wrote:Interesting. I remember a rumor that Yes was going to be doing music for Jackson's trilogy, and I got very excited. I wish they'd been given a chance at this
.
interesting. i thought
Ian Anderson should have done the music for the trilogy.
