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Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:43 pm**

Cail wrote:You know, it's funny, I never really got into the Wayne movies.

Me neither. As I've said before, IMHO "The Searchers" is completely overrated.

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:31 pm**

Never been into westerns but! One upon a time I read a western book and it was great and I want to know if it's ever been made into a film.

Can't remember the book's name though

Author might've been Cormac something or something McCormac, and there might have been Horses in the title. Dancing horses or still horses or something? Or maybe something about the sky.

That vague enough?

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:51 pm**

Stonemaybe wrote:Never been into westerns but! One upon a time I read a western book and it was great and I want to know if it's ever been made into a film.

Can't remember the book's name though

Author might've been Cormac something or something McCormac, and there might have been Horses in the title. Dancing horses or still horses or something? Or maybe something about the sky.

That vague enough?

All the Pretty Horses by Cormac McCarthy?

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:52 pm**

dlbpharmd wrote:
Cail wrote:You know, it's funny, I never really got into the Wayne movies.
Me neither. As I've said before, IMHO "The Searchers" is completely overrated.

Yeah, I dunno what it is, but I just can't really get excited about his films. The only one I really enjoyed was The Shootist.

Intentionally or not Stonemaybe, that's a really funny post.

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:03 pm**

EDGE the Star! wrote:

All the Pretty Horses by Cormac McCarthy?

That's the one! Is it truly good or are westerns in general good and I read a normal run-of-the-mill good one?

Cail wrote:

Intentionally or not Stonemaybe, that's a really funny post.

Didn't start off intentional anyway! By the time I realised I hadn't a clue what I was asking about, the message was writ and see, it doesn't matter if you haven't got a clue - someone on here'll always know the answer

!

Edit:so is it a film?

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:11 pm**

It has indeed been filmed:

www.imdb.com/title/tt0149624/

As to whether it's good or not: dunno, never heard of it. I just found it by Googling.

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:02 pm**

Rawedge Rim, I totally respect that John Wayne's films mean that much to you.

But I'm afraid Wayne was one of my least favorite actors. This may sound harsh, but I'd say John Wayne was the one most responsible for turning me off the Western in the first place.

Later on, it was Clint Eastwood's westerns (particularly Unforgiven) that truly made me appreciate the genre. I guess for many, John Wayne remains the quintessential Western movie icon. But for me, it's Eastwood.

Last night, I watched Unforgiven again. Hadn't put it on in a while, but the movie has lost none of its power over me. Unforgiven can be interpreted in so many ways, beyond the "simple" surface story it tells, and that is a big reason why I keep coming back to it.

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:14 pm**

Good post, MM, and I certainly agree about Eastwood vs. Wayne.

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:49 pm**

dlbpharmd wrote:Good post, MM, and I certainly agree about Eastwood vs. Wayne.

Thirded. Eastwood's westerns define the genre for me.

Of course, then there's The Wild Bunch....

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:26 pm**

Rawedge Rim wrote:
Usivius wrote:C'mon people... has no one seen "My Name Is Nobody"..?
Or is it that no one has anything good to say about it?...

It is one of my favourites to watch. I recognize it is not a "great movie", but it is fun to watch and Fonda's character is so honestly portrayed.
and I think the sequal was "My name is still Trinity" or something to that affect.

I think you might be getting mixed up with 'My Name Is Trinity', which had a sequel 'Trinity Is Still My Name'. Also Terence Hill flicks, but with Bud Spencer rather than Fonda. I loved them as a kid.

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:41 pm**

Trinity films are fantastic!

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:51 pm**

I dunno....I mean she looked good, but Reloaded and Revolutions really sucked.

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:36 pm**

Stone! I've listed All the Pretty Horses in my intro list. I've read the book too...the movie can't capture all the detail and raw emotion of the book, but for a western film it's not bad at all...if the movie was about 20 mins to a half hour longer I think it could have done it true justice.

Posted: **Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:23 pm**

I will have to try and find the film. All I remember about the book was that it was pretty gruesome, but that I really enjoyed it. ( I seem to remember far too much detail in a scalping scene?)

Posted: **Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:50 pm**

Matrixman wrote:Rawedge Rim, I totally respect that John Wayne's films mean that much to you.

But I'm afraid Wayne was one of my least favorite actors. This may sound harsh, but I'd say John Wayne was the one most responsible for turning me off the Western in the first place.

Later on, it was Clint Eastwood's westerns (particularly Unforgiven) that truly made me appreciate the genre. I guess for many, John Wayne remains the quintessential Western movie icon. But for me, it's Eastwood.

Last night, I watched Unforgiven again. Hadn't put it on in a while, but the movie has lost none of its power over me. Unforgiven can be interpreted in so many ways, beyond the "simple" surface story it tells, and that is a big reason why I keep coming back to it.

I'm not a fan of Waynes early westerns (Stagecoach and before), but once you reach "Angel and the Bad Man, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon" and beyond, I become a real John Wayne fan. If you were looking for serious, thought provoking westerns, then certainly the average Wayne western isn't for you, though "the Shootist, the Cowboys, True Grit, The Man who shot Liberty Valance, and the Searchers" came close.

As for Eastwood, I like his westerns (you could almost include the Magnificent Seven, since it was pretty much the first Spagetti Western). I don't believe that Eastwood's westerns overshadow Wayne's so much, since they were produced in a different time, for a different audience, just as Roy Rogers, and Hopalong Cassidy was made for people even older than myself.

Posted: **Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:16 pm**

Edge wrote:
Rawedge Rim wrote:
Usivius wrote:C'mon people... has no one seen "My Name Is Nobody"..?
Or is it that no one has anything good to say about it?...

It is one of my favourites to watch. I recognize it is not a "great movie", but it is fun to watch and Fonda's character is so honestly portrayed.
and I think the sequal was "My name is still Trinity" or something to that affect.
I think you might be getting mixed up with 'My Name Is Trinity', which had a sequel 'Trinity Is Still My Name'. Also Terence Hill flicks, but with Bud Spencer rather than Fonda. I loved them as a kid.

Nope, not confused.
"My Name Is Nobody" or the Italian title, "Mio Nome e Nessuno, Il".
(and I have heard that in the US it also goes by the title "Lonesome Gun".)
1974
Directed by Tonino Valerii
Terrence Hill, Henry Fonda, and a cast of many Italians.

Here is a blurb on Imdb from a reviewer:

Great movie. From an idea of Sergio Leone, the guy from the good, bad and ugly trilogy. Terence hill is awesome. Fonda is himself. truly a great movie, in the best of the A-class spaghetti western tradition. Recommend for lovers of bud Spencer and Terence hill, but even more for lovers of Clint Eastwood and Sergio Leone and Ennio Morricone. the soundtrack is also fantastic. I found brilliant the way the director combined the lightheartedness of Hill and the stare-down gunfight angle of traditional Eastwood westerns. Also look for they called him trinity and sequel, also great movie, and those include bud Spencer. The movie is actually filmed in New Mexico, Acoma and surroundings, so the scenery is also fantastic. The original language is English, even though most of the cast is Italian, and both the Italian and English version are great. However, in the best spaghetti tradition I believe the Italian might capture some fine details better than the original.

Posted: **Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:03 pm**

Usivius wrote:
Edge wrote:
Rawedge Rim wrote: and I think the sequal was "My name is still Trinity" or something to that affect.
I think you might be getting mixed up with 'My Name Is Trinity', which had a sequel 'Trinity Is Still My Name'. Also Terence Hill flicks, but with Bud Spencer rather than Fonda. I loved them as a kid.
Nope, not confused.
"My Name Is Nobody" or the Italian title, "Mio Nome e Nessuno, Il".
(and I have heard that in the US it also goes by the title "Lonesome Gun".)
1974
Directed by Tonino Valerii
Terrence Hill, Henry Fonda, and a cast of many Italians.

Here is a blurb on Imdb from a reviewer:

Great movie. From an idea of Sergio Leone, the guy from the good, bad and ugly trilogy. Terence hill is awesome. Fonda is himself. truly a great movie, in the best of the A-class spaghetti western tradition. Recommend for lovers of bud Spencer and Terence hill, but even more for lovers of Clint Eastwood and Sergio Leone and Ennio Morricone. the soundtrack is also fantastic. I found brilliant the way the director combined the lightheartedness of Hill and the stare-down gunfight angle of traditional Eastwood westerns. Also look for they called him trinity and sequel, also great movie, and those include bud Spencer. The movie is actually filmed in New Mexico, Acoma and surroundings, so the scenery is also fantastic. The original language is English, even though most of the cast is Italian, and both the Italian and English version are great. However, in the best spaghetti tradition I believe the Italian might capture some fine details better than the original.

Sorry, didn't express myslf clearly. What I was saying was that I thought you were confused about the sequel - 'Trinity Is Still My Name' was a sequel to 'My Name Is Trinity', not 'My Name Is Nobody'.

Posted: **Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:16 pm**

ah.

ok, nevermind...

Posted: **Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:14 pm**

Finally watched "A Fistful of Dollars." Frankly, I don't see what's supposed to be so great about it.

Posted: **Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:08 am**

I prefer For a Few Dollars More...

Kevin's Watch

Westerns

Might be an age thing