Kevin's Watch

KISS?

Here are my 10 greatest hip hop/rap songs ever:

- OPP
- Can't Touch This
- 2 Legit
- Push It
- Poison
- Keep Ya Head Up
- Regulate
- Mind Playin' Tricks On Me
- Nuthin But A G Thang
- Straight Outta Compton

HM: Crossroads, Ms. Jackson, Juicy, Gin 'n Juice, How I Could Just Kill A Man, It Was A Good Day

Greatest Hip Hop Album EVer: The Score, Fugees

Hip-hop and rap are two pretty different things, and BBD was neither.

You can't have a top-10 hip-hop/rap list without Run DMC, Public Enemy, or Digital Underground.

And the greatest hip-hop album of all time is either Public Enemy's "It Takes a Nation of Millions..." or "Fear of a Black Planet".

Cail wrote:KISS?

My first musical love and what got me hooked on rock when I was 7. Iit was Alive II back then - I saw that cover and instantly wanted to hear the music and it was like KABOOOOSH - addicted.

PLUS can I make my list 11? In that case I need to add something Ministry - either Just One Fix or The Fall.

or Jesus Built My Hotrod? That one would have been around my number 13.

It has to be Just One Fix simply because of the cooperation with Burroughs. What a shame they disbanded ...

Vader wrote:What a shame they disbanded ...

Agreed. Ministry was amazing.

Cail wrote:Hip-hop and rap are two pretty different things, and BBD was neither.

You can't have a top-10 hip-hop/rap list without Run DMC, Public Enemy, or Digital Underground.

And the greatest hip-hop album of all time is either Public Enemy's "It Takes a Nation of Millions..." or "Fear of a Black Planet".

For the most part they are...but then you have songs like Iesha which is technically rap, but is also hip hop, or Scrubs.

My list doesn't include RunDMC cause 'sides Down With The King their stuff was before my time. And despite PE's nearly unequivecle influence on rap, they were never a fav of mine. Humpty Dance is top 30 in my book but not top 10.

BBD, Boyz II Men, New Edition, and all the various offshoots of them are R&B, with a few rap influences. None of them are hip-hop.

Hip-hop is an offshoot of rap, but with swing and a message. Put simply....

Rap - "The cat in the hat."

Hip-hop - "The feline in the chapeau."

And then there's gangsta rap, which is basically, "I f*cked that b*tch with her cat, then I stole the b*tch's hat."

NWA and Ice-T were gangsta rap, Public Enemy took all that angst and anger and directed it. "Fight the Power" is all the aggression and frustration of hardcore thrash without the guitars. It's amazing how well it's produced, and it's just hard as nails.

"Sex Packets" from DU doesn't hit as hard as "Fear of a Black Planet", but DU got their message across through absurdity and humor. They also launched the career of one Tupac Shakur, which (as far as this white boy is concerned) gives them all the street cred they need.

Run DMC brought hip-hop to the masses, but calling any of their stuff prior to "Raising Hell" hip-hop is arguably a stretch.

MC Hammer, Heavy D, and that group are like the Matchbox 20 of rap.....sort of the background stuff you hear at the gym. Nothing really special or meaningful about them.





Of course, if you really want to get down to it, Ted Nugent accidentally invented rap with his song "Wango Tango".....

Can't Touch This is the Titanic of rap.

Time - Pink Floyd
Sunshine of Your Love - Cream (prefer 24 Nights version by Eric Clapton)
Flirting with disaster - Molly Hatchett
One of these nights - Eagles
That Smell - Lynyrd Skynyrd
Blue Sky - Allman Brothers Band
Layla - Derek and the Dominoes (prefer any live version by Eric Clapton)
Mr Crowley - Ozzy Osborne
Photograph - Def Leppard
Big City Nights - Scorpions

dlbpharmd wrote:Time - Pink Floyd
Sunshine of Your Love - Cream (prefer 24 Nights version by Eric Clapton)
Flirting with disaster - Molly Hatchett
One of these nights - Eagles
That Smell - Lynyrd Skynyrd
Blue Sky - Allman Brothers Band
Layla - Derek and the Dominoes (prefer any live version by Eric Clapton)
Mr Crowley - Ozzy Osborne
Photograph - Def Leppard
Big City Nights - Scorpions

Damn you're a product of our time. Hard to criticize this list, and I'd be a happy guy sitting in a tiki bar listening to this stuff with you, but....

For the Eagles I'd have to go with "Victim of Love" or "Life in the Fast Lane", and as much as I love "Layla", "Bell Bottom Blues" just speaks to me more.

Anyone who includes a Scorpions song in their top 10 is OK with me (but I'd pick "The Zoo").

Well, I put some thought into this list. It's so hard to come up with just 10, so I came up with some basic criteria:

1) Songs that make me say "HELL YEAH! Turn that UP!"
2) Songs that I would give my left nut to be able to play on guitar (Flirting with disaster, Blue Sky.)
3) Songs with great lyrics that speak to me, like:

I've been searching for the daughter of the devil himself
I've been searching for an angel in white

or

And then one day you'll find
10 years have got behind you

4) Songs from influential albums:

Pyromania - Def Leppard's best
World Wide Live - Scorpions, has never gotten old for me
24 Nights - opened my world to the sublime Clapton
Blizzard of Ozz - Ozzy at the height of his powers

Thus, my Top 10. BTW, you'll never get me to sit in a bar and listen to Public Enemy with you.

I won't sit in a bar and listen to Public Enemy.

Still, good choices, and great criteria.

Man, six years changes a lot.

- Demon Cleaner, Kyuss
- Soapmakers, Clutch
- No One Knows, QOTSA
- Sober, Tool
- Don't Follow, AiC
- Kickdown, Truckfighters
- Backslider, Toadies
- March to the Sea, Pelican
- Thirty Four - Karma to Burn

jacob Raver, sinTempter wrote:Can't Touch This is the Titanic of rap.

Really? I always thought that honor belonged to Ice Ice Baby. I'd put Can't Touch This as the Hindenburg though. Although both inspire me to say, "Oh, the humanity!"

"Ice Ice Baby" is the WKRP Thanksgiving promotion of rap.

Cail wrote:"Ice Ice Baby" is the WKRP Thanksgiving promotion of rap.

And "Brass Monkey" is the Real People episode with Herb.

Wait...I don't think that works as well as this one.

And "Brass Monkey" is the Dale's Stereo and Sound promotion of rap.

Yes, exactly.

Actually, both Hammer and Ice could well be the Herbert R. Tarleks of rap. Their belts may match their shoes, but their souls are empty.

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