Serenity

Post by **I'm Murrin** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:43 pm

Yes, I noticed the continuity issue as well. A little disappointing.

Post by **Prom_STar** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:46 pm

I saw Serenity before Firefly (still only seen episode 1). But while I was watching Firely ep. 1, I too noticed that consistency issue--more like I raised my eyebrow at it and then went on to continue having my faith in american tv restored.

Post by **CovenantJr** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:08 am

I think that kind of continuity error bothers me so much because, to me, it suggests one (or both) of two things:

1) Sloppiness.

2) Lack of respect for the subject.

Grrr.

Post by **CovenantJr** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:57 pm

Re-watched several episodes of Firefly today. It's sooooo much better than Serenity.

Post by **Cail** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:11 pm

I agree. Serenity isn't bad at all, in fact, it's quite good. But the series was just incredible. i watched Jaynestown last night before I went to bed, and I just loved it.

Post by **dANdeLION** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:32 pm

Don't worry, guys. I'm sure that if you watch it enough, you'll find tons of inconsistencies in Firefly, too.

Post by **Revan** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:50 pm

Well, technically Angel was Spike's sire... his grandsire at any rate. So that can be explained. And several times throughout Buffy and Angel it is related that the grandsires can also be considered sires.

And it could also be explained that Simon chose not to divulge this information to Mal... I mean he chose not to give other information away... so it is possible that he did so again.

Post by **CovenantJr** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:21 pm

Nope. Joss is just wrong. There's really only one way you can take "You were my sire, man!" As for Simon, there's no reason he'd lie about the nature of River's rescue, or at least not in that way.

Post by **Revan** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:55 pm

And, also, remember that Simon didn't mention that he didn't help break River out.

Remember this as well: It was a good movie, quit bitching.

Post by **dANdeLION** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:56 pm

Guys, please. This is the Serenity thread, not the Buffy thread....Speaking of, I'm rooting for the original (and best) Buffy to win tonight's ice skating thing! Go Kristy Swanson!

Post by **Revan** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:19 pm

buffy is relevant in this discussion dAN, because we are discussing flaws within Joss' work on Serenity... and Roger has stated that it is hardly a new aspect of Joss' writing; be relating it to other shows that Mr Whedon has worked on.

Post by **dANdeLION** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:30 pm

Ahh, you have to look at it from my perspective. I only watched the Buffy movie, and a few episodes of the show, so I have yet to come to the realization that Mr. Whedon makes mistakes.

Post by **Revan** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:53 pm

dANdeLION wrote:Ahh, you have to look at it from my perspective. I only watched the Buffy movie, and a few episodes of the show, so I have yet to come to the realization that Mr. Whedon makes mistakes.

I think he knows the mistakes he's made... but come on, loads of author's and writers make mistakes... Rowling, Naylor, Jordan, plenty of people make mistakes.

And Joss Whedon might not have wrote the exact episode where Spike says "You were my sire". He had plenty of backup writers supporting him.

Post by **I'm Murrin** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:18 pm

Revan wrote:And, also, remember that Simon didn't mention that he didn't help break River out.

He said quite explicitly that he found someone to break her out from stasis, and that they delivered her to him on Persephone not long before he boarded Serenity.

Post by **Revan** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:21 pm

Murrin wrote:
Revan wrote:And, also, remember that Simon didn't mention that he didn't help break River out.
He said quite explicitly that he found someone to break her out from stasis, and that they delivered her to him on Persephone not long before he boarded Serenity.

Yeah, but both can be true. He did find someone to break her out... who most likely got him false authorization to be there... how else can you explain him being there to get River? He couldn't just walk in the installation... and they could have snuck River out in stasis because they had no other way to elude the Alliance.

Post by **dANdeLION** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:02 pm

Oh, that inconsistency! I did notice that one, and I think Rev's explanation is the best one.....besides, it's not like Simon had time to explain everything in excruciatingly accurate detail back in the Firefly episode (and he clearly didn't want to tell them everything, anyway).

Post by **dlbpharmd** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:16 pm

Since I just finished Firefly, I'm watching Serenity now. I'm a huge fan, I'll be buying the DVDs soon.

Post by **Loredoctor** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:26 pm

Serenity was great. The part with the Reaver fleet arriving to fight the Alliance fleet was incredible.

Post by **dlbpharmd** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:56 am

Just finished Serenity - all in all, it's a great movie, but one thing that I really liked about Firefly was the wit and humor; that was missing from Serenity. Serenity is darker, more violent - and that's not necessarily a bad thing. It's a good movie, I highly recommend it.

Post by **Loredoctor** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:25 am

Just a shame there were some story holes. Like how the Reavers continue their kind - perhaps breeding? And, more importantly, how they manager their ships/fleets. If they are that psychotic, I find it difficult to imagine that they can pilot their ships or manage repairs or alterations. Further, the fleet in orbit of Miranda seemed too ordered and peaceful.

More explanation would have been good. Maybe a sequel will do just that.

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