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Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:04 am
by peter
Yes Sarge. In the UK holiday is calculated at 12.5[ish]% of hours worked. That equates to 28 eight-hour days of paid leave for a worker doing a forty hour week. This is a statutory minnimum - ie a legal entitlement for any worker, and thus, to include it as a 'bennefit' in the job description of a vacant position is bullcrap - it goes without saying!

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:16 am
by sgt.null
ok, thanks for clearing that Peter and Avatar.

I get twelve paid holidays, if I work one I get an extra comp day for being there in addition to my paid day that day. and if I am off I get a day of comp.

I get sick time and vacation time every month.

close family relative dying - I get three administrative days of comp time.

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:38 am
by Avatar
Our legal minimum is 21 days IIRC.

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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:12 pm
by peter
Our 28 days breaks up as 5.6 weeks holiday per year - five weeks of paid holiday plus 3 bank-holiday days. This [without rubbing salt into it Sarge] seems somewhat more generous than the US entitlement [but it may be that these 'comp days' [?] add in to make it a better deal than it sounds. [We get no sick pay in my job however, or pension contribution or anything.]

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:38 pm
by Sorus
Most places I've worked give 1 week the first year, 2 weeks for the second-to-fifth years, 3 weeks for five-to-ten years, and 4 weeks for 10-plus years. And between five and seven (sometimes more) paid holidays, and roughly 10 sick days.

Where I work now... well, we won't go there, but they gave our benefits a pretty brutal snipping at the beginning of this year. Plus I stopped accruing both sick and vacation time a while back because I hit the maximum and they won't let me use any of it. (What time is it? Time to find a new job.)

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:52 am
by Avatar
The law provides for 10 days paid sick leave per year, but it works in a 3 year cycle, so it's actually 30 days per 3 years.

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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:49 pm
by I'm Murrin
I believe the UK entitlement includes the 8 bank holidays a year, so it's not quite as generous as it sounds. (I get 33 days including those holidays; 25 days without them, three of which are fixed days of factory shutdown between Christmas and New Year.)

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:57 pm
by peter
Yes Murrin, I thought the 'five week' thing was adrift. Still - it doesnt seem all that long ago [to me at least] that I was only getting two weeks a year! Now I struggle to know what to do with my free time! :lol:

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:32 pm
by sgt.null
work long enough you can gain some fair amount of time. I was able to be out of work for three months a few years ago when I had my ankle fixed.

and plenty of people take of a few months at the end of their careers.

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:01 am
by Avatar
I'm Murrin wrote:I believe the UK entitlement includes the 8 bank holidays a year, so it's not quite as generous as it sounds.
Ah, our 21 days excludes the 12 or so public holidays we have a year.

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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:24 pm
by sgt.null
lazy socialist gits.

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:26 am
by Avatar
Not lazy enough for my taste. :D

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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:51 am
by peter
Words cannot describe my reaction to the story of the trophy hunting Western dentist who killed a lion in Africa with a cross-bow and has subsequently been 'outed' in the press on both sides of the Atlantic. He will reap the rewards of his dispicable actions in this world, if not the next.

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:33 am
by Avatar
To be fair, I sorta feel sorry for the guy. Whatever you may think of trophy hunting, he was almost certainly duped by his so-called PH and his confederates.

They are supposed to be the people who ensure everything is legal and ethical and sustainable. That's why you pay them so much.

He was probably as much a victim as anything else. And now it looks like it is going to cost him.

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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:42 pm
by Sorus
The guy had a history of poaching and enough cash to get what he wanted. Did he care if it was legal and ethical, or is he just sorry he got caught?

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 6:25 am
by Avatar
Well, that's why I said probably. If he was aware that it wasn't, then he's as culpable as the PH.

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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:16 am
by peter
Gosh - I can't think of anywhere in my ethical or moral framework [not noted for it's inflexible structure ;) ] where a gap exists large enough to slot that particular action into.

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 3:25 pm
by Sorus
I'm sure a lawyer would argue for reasonable doubt if it ever enters a courtroom - which I doubt it will. He has certainly paid more than he anticipated for his actions, and his 'trophy' is more like the ancient Mariner's albatross. On the other hand, the guides knew exactly what they were doing - collecting an easy $50K - and I haven't seen an angry mob crying for their heads.

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:38 am
by Avatar
peter wrote:...where a gap exists large enough to slot that particular action into.
Which action? :D

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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:17 am
by peter
The pointless killing of that beautiful animal with a crossbow bolt. Why? Is it some kind of 'dick-swinging' thing?