Kevin's Watch

No, I do not believe one request could encompass so many problems. Not in that manner, anyway.

I've been considering this, and I think I've found something we can all agree upon. I propose that each of our DRP is increased by seven for this turn only. In return, we must each swear a truce with all. No attacking and no intentionally working towards the destruction of another during this turn. This should be sufficient for those who are willing to fix the problems plaguing Eiran and for those who are not to increase their own holdings.

And no, I do not consider the Mists to be a threat to Eiran... no more than any other natural force, anyway.

That is a very intriguing suggestion, Simjen.

Simjen wrote:No attacking and no intentionally working towards the destruction of another during this turn.

Nicely worded. None could set any time-bombs of any sort in place.

I would be willing to agree to such a proposal.

I will not agree to this.

Then what would you agree to, Nor?

Simjen wrote:Then what would you agree to, Nor?

Stop the plague, destroy the abomination and prevent the extra-dimensional entity.

How can such a thing be worded? As you just stated it, that is three requests. Or did you mean you will agree to any of those?

Define "working toward the destruction". My worry is the word destruction.

It does not seem to matter. Yek does not agree to that. I still most prefer sealing away other dimensions.

Bhakti wrote:It does not seem to matter. Yek does not agree to that.

*sigh* No, it is not that. Think for once, you love-obsessed fool.

Or did you mean you will agree to any of those?

Yes.

Nor Yekith wrote:*sigh* No, it is not that. Think for once, you love-obsessed fool.

There are worse obsessions. *cough* mutation *cough* malice *cough*

Nor Yekith wrote:

Bhakti wrote:Or did you mean you will agree to any of those?

Yes.

Excellent!

Bhakti wrote:

Nor Yekith wrote:*sigh* No, it is not that. Think for once, you love-obsessed fool.

There are worse obsessions. *cough* mutation *cough* malice *cough*

Note that the people have chosen; which of us has the most popular religion?

I have thought on this proposal, and something has begun to trouble me. It seems possible that providing so great a power to every one of us at the same time might only lead to turmoil, for it is certain that much of would be working at cross purposes, so much power having come from so diverse a group. Even if it could be guaranteed that we could not act against one another, the damage that might be done to our world from so great an outpouring of strength... Unless all of that power were focused entirely on specific events toward a specific goal, I can see only chaos resulting.

Nor Yekith wrote:Note that the people have chosen; which of us has the most popular religion?

Feh. Yours is the easy way. What leads to Malice? Damned near everything! It is more difficult to Trust and Love. Though Love is the core of nearly all beings, the world and its challenges make it difficult to walk Love's path. I could increase your followers if I wanted to. But you could not increase mine in a million years. In fact, my population would be greater but for your actions against me, while I have never acted against you in any way.

Murrin wrote:I have thought on this proposal, and something has begun to trouble me. It seems possible that providing so great a power to every one of us at the same time might only lead to turmoil, for it is certain that much of would be working at cross purposes, so much power having come from so diverse a group. Even if it could be guaranteed that we could not act against one another, the damage that might be done to our world from so great an outpouring of strength... Unless all of that power were focused entirely on specific events toward a specific goal, I can see only chaos resulting.

Agreed. Further, we gain our power from the strength and number of our worshippers. The greater of us have that power because of our vast following. For our followers to find out that a lesser god suddenly became equal in power for a season would make them doubt their own god.

(Note that Simjen said "increased by seven", not "increased to seven". Differences in strength would be preserved.)

Bhakti wrote:

Nor Yekith wrote:Note that the people have chosen; which of us has the most popular religion?

Feh. Yours is the easy way. What leads to Malice? Damned near everything! It is more difficult to Trust and Love. Though Love is the core of nearly all beings, the world and its challenges make it difficult to walk Love's path. I could increase your followers if I wanted to. But you could not increase mine in a million years. In fact, my population would be greater but for your actions against me, while I have never acted against you in any way.

They choose. But in this instance, they chose power - power and the chance to perfect their bodies. All life is the strive for power and perfection. It is easy because that is how life is; if anything, my followers are more honest. It is hard for you because your beliefs are contradictory - love and nature are really at odds: nature is essentially unforgiving and obeys the laws of power. Love, is more of a mindset that is limiting. Further, love will get no one anywhere. The same way altruism weakens one.

Murrin wrote:I have thought on this proposal, and something has begun to trouble me. It seems possible that providing so great a power to every one of us at the same time might only lead to turmoil, for it is certain that much of would be working at cross purposes, so much power having come from so diverse a group. Even if it could be guaranteed that we could not act against one another, the damage that might be done to our world from so great an outpouring of strength... Unless all of that power were focused entirely on specific events toward a specific goal, I can see only chaos resulting.

Very good point. I think the idea has some merit, but perhaps more variables.

I think that sealing the material plane frome the others is the best way to act. I agree with Bhakti