How do you feel today?

Post by **Cameraman Jenn** » Fri May 04, 2007 5:25 pm

You have to be joking Cov. That's a total pile of horse puckey. That totally sucks. I say go get them tiger. Make em sorry. Make em pay. May em apologize and retract. Also, hug your girlfriend from me. She's gotta be distraught. Those stupid university f--kers. Grrrr....

I actually am having what's starting out to be a good day. It doesn't hurt that it's Friday either.

Post by **CovenantJr** » Fri May 04, 2007 5:40 pm

Cameraman Jenn wrote:You have to be joking Cov. That's a total pile of horse puckey. That totally sucks. I say go get them tiger. Make em sorry. Make em pay. May em apologize and retract. Also, hug your girlfriend from me. She's gotta be distraught. Those stupid university f--kers. Grrrr....

You know the old Incredible Hulk thing? "You wouldn't like me when I'm angry"? Yeah.

They haven't even seen angry. Not yet.

Post by **lucimay** » Fri May 04, 2007 6:30 pm

CovenantJr wrote:I am extremely, intensely pissed off.

My girlfriend's university has accused her of plagiarism, the charge being that she has copied five or six words from an essay written by a student at a different university two years ago. The words are very commonplace ones (I forget the exact phrase, but it's something along the lines of "this cognitive effect results in...") so the whole charge is a joke.

She and her dad appeared before the Faculty Board today, Hannah apparently crying all the way through, but to no avail. The answer, in essence, was "We've made the accusation and that's that. You've brought it on yourself." The fact that there isn't a shred of evidence Hannah would even have access to this mysterious other essay is clearly of no import. Furthermore, the logical implication is that every student should read all essays from all other students at all other universities, in order to avoid accidentally using a phrase that has been used elsewhere.

The whole thing's a farce. I can tell you, if I'd been there, they wouldn't have got away with that. Even if I couldn't have made them drop the charge, I would have at least got them to admit, aloud, for the record, that they are pressing the charge without cause or evidence. Then it would have been a trip to the solicitor.

Sadly, my girlfriend and her dad are both quite gentle and not fond of confrontation.

I should have been there. I should have bloody been there, but she didn't even tell me she'd got a date for the hearing, never mind that it was today.

This does not end here. Not if I have any say in it. No way in hell.

this is utterly bizarre!!! i can't understand the point of the charge! i mean, it's got to be the teacher, right? of the class? this makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. what was the course. does the instructor have an ax to grind against Hannah? there's literally no reason in hell for this excepting that the instructor is pushing it.

hie off to the solicitor RIGHT AWAY. and hugs for Hannah from me too!!

Post by **CovenantJr** » Sat May 05, 2007 12:22 am

She's not having it. I spoke to her again, and she told me in no uncertain terms that she has no interest in fighting the charge.

Some people (like me) respond to attacks by attacking back; others, like Hannah, just sit and take it. I can't make her fight, unfortunately.

Post by **Seareach** » Sat May 05, 2007 12:41 am

CJr...what does it mean if she's "charged". What's the repercussions of plagiarism at her university?

Post by **CovenantJr** » Sat May 05, 2007 1:10 am

Minimum, the essay in question is worth no marks. That alone is enough to knock her down from an upper second class degree to a lower second (which would prevent her getting onto a post-grad course and becoming a lecturer as she intended). Maximum, she's expelled from the university and barred from every other university in Britain.

Post by **Seareach** » Sat May 05, 2007 1:21 am

CovenantJr wrote:Minimum, the essay in question is worth no marks. That alone is enough to knock her down from an upper second class degree to a lower second (which would prevent her getting onto a post-grad course and becoming a lecturer as she intended). Maximum, she's expelled from the university and barred from every other university in Britain.

That's just *so* wrong! Go there CJr and demand that they give her evidence of what she's done. ...get on the internet, type in a search with those key phrases for essays and demonstrate to those idiots how common the phrase is! I know you've said you can't do anything if your gf has made up her mind to do nothing about it but.... Ya know. This potentially affects the rest of her life!

Post by **CovenantJr** » Sat May 05, 2007 2:00 am

I have my orders. Any appeal or complaint will have to come from her; I can only back her up.

It just really frustrates me that the hearing might well have turned out differently if I'd been there. I'm good at this stuff. But she didn't even tell me.

Probably didn't want me to fight for her. She doesn't like it when I fight. She prefers to keep things quiet and low-key.

Post by **Wyldewode** » Sat May 05, 2007 5:02 pm

CovenantJr wrote:I am extremely, intensely pissed off.

My girlfriend's university has accused her of plagiarism, the charge being that she has copied five or six words from an essay written by a student at a different university two years ago. The words are very commonplace ones (I forget the exact phrase, but it's something along the lines of "this cognitive effect results in...") so the whole charge is a joke.

She and her dad appeared before the Faculty Board today, Hannah apparently crying all the way through, but to no avail. The answer, in essence, was "We've made the accusation and that's that. You've brought it on yourself." The fact that there isn't a shred of evidence Hannah would even have access to this mysterious other essay is clearly of no import. Furthermore, the logical implication is that every student should read all essays from all other students at all other universities, in order to avoid accidentally using a phrase that has been used elsewhere.

The whole thing's a farce. I can tell you, if I'd been there, they wouldn't have got away with that. Even if I couldn't have made them drop the charge, I would have at least got them to admit, aloud, for the record, that they are pressing the charge without cause or evidence. Then it would have been a trip to the solicitor.

Sadly, my girlfriend and her dad are both quite gentle and not fond of confrontation.

I should have been there. I should have bloody been there, but she didn't even tell me she'd got a date for the hearing, never mind that it was today.

This does not end here. Not if I have any say in it. No way in hell.

This sucks, Cov! Go give them hell!

Post by **Marv** » Sat May 05, 2007 5:11 pm

Shot glass of hot sauce chased by a cup of lukewarm black tea.

Ok, so I tried this. I wasn't ill or anythig I just wanted to see what it was all about. Turns out if you're not ill it actually makes you ill. Presumably if I do it again I'll be fine!!

Post by **Worm of Despite** » Sat May 05, 2007 5:59 pm

I feel good, other than my legs being weak as hell. Can only walk, and even that hurts some.

Yesterday was great. Went to Spider 3, enjoyed it but didn't have the same pleasing aftertaste as 2 or 1. I'll save that for the movie thread, though.

Stayed up till 5:00 AM; slept in late. Such a refreshing change. Going to do whatever I want for the first time in a while. Might even make some typos. Typo typo typjop

Post by **CovenantJr** » Sat May 05, 2007 11:05 pm

Marvin wrote:
Shot glass of hot sauce chased by a cup of lukewarm black tea.
Ok, so I tried this. I wasn't ill or anythig I just wanted to see what it was all about. Turns out if you're not ill it actually makes you ill. Presumably if I do it again I'll be fine!!

I considered trying it myself. Don't think I'll bother now.

Post by **balon!** » Sat May 05, 2007 11:27 pm

Marvin wrote:
Shot glass of hot sauce chased by a cup of lukewarm black tea.
Ok, so I tried this. I wasn't ill or anythig I just wanted to see what it was all about. Turns out if you're not ill it actually makes you ill. Presumably if I do it again I'll be fine!!

What kind of hot sauce? It makes all the difference. (I think

)

Post by **lucimay** » Sun May 06, 2007 7:32 am

Balon wrote:
Marvin wrote:
Shot glass of hot sauce chased by a cup of lukewarm black tea.
Ok, so I tried this. I wasn't ill or anythig I just wanted to see what it was all about. Turns out if you're not ill it actually makes you ill. Presumably if I do it again I'll be fine!!
What kind of hot sauce? It makes all the difference. (I think )

yes. it does. it should be cayenne hot sauce. cayenne is the thing.

Post by **stonemaybe** » Sun May 06, 2007 9:20 pm

I feel good dd d d dd d ( ala James Brown)

Bank holiday weekend started off with big gf rows but big walk in the hills today and we made up (aw!) and

oh all's good anyway.

seaweed munchies being cooked now in time for 'Match of the Day' in 5 minutes.

I'm in love, ergo I'm happy.

Post by **Marv** » Sun May 06, 2007 9:39 pm

Balon wrote:
Marvin wrote:
Shot glass of hot sauce chased by a cup of lukewarm black tea.
Ok, so I tried this. I wasn't ill or anythig I just wanted to see what it was all about. Turns out if you're not ill it actually makes you ill. Presumably if I do it again I'll be fine!!
What kind of hot sauce? It makes all the difference. (I think )

You left that little detail out when you were tellin' everyone about this remedy dint ya?!

Hey, if you were my doc I'd be suing right about now!!

It was some carribean hot sauce called Carona. VERY HOT!!

Post by **Seareach** » Mon May 07, 2007 2:09 am

Steeled.

Wish me luck everyone!!!!

Post by **balon!** » Mon May 07, 2007 3:22 am

1. Good luck Sea! I have no idea what for, but I'll make it broad-specturm luck!

2. CJr. Totally weak, in fact in blows my mind that that kind of crap can happen. So they didn't have to bring in front of any panel, jurors, the head of the school? Nothing!? They just declared her guilt, and made it so? That doesn't seem like the correct way to do it.

3. I feel really proud. One of my buddies just decided, for no apparent reason, to shoot this rabbit next to our hang out spot with a bee bee gun, and kill it. So I jumped up and ran to the door, and actually had to fight my way passed to the door to run out and scare the rabbit away. I got a bruised shoulder in the scuffle, and my friend was actually pissed!

Needless to say, I didn't take any of the crap and made sure he knew how stupid it was to just kill something needlessly.

It still amazes me, the stupidity of others.

Post by **matrixman** » Mon May 07, 2007 7:25 am

Cov, you and your gf have my full (if useless) moral support. The whole business sounds so asinine. This sort of thing re-confirms why I have no desire at all to go back to school. I put up with enough bulls**t at work - but at least I get paid. At school, you're paying to have BS thrown at you.

Post by **Elfgirl** » Mon May 07, 2007 8:56 am

CovenantJr wrote:I have my orders. Any appeal or complaint will have to come from her; I can only back her up.

It just really frustrates me that the hearing might well have turned out differently if I'd been there. I'm good at this stuff. But she didn't even tell me.

Probably didn't want me to fight for her. She doesn't like it when I fight. She prefers to keep things quiet and low-key.

I got a plan Cjr - why don't you look up that exact phrase in OTHER (published by high authorities, eg UNIVERSITY LECTURERS) and prove to the stupid arshole faculty freaks how COMMONPLACE a phrase like that is??? If you can find at least four other examples, PUBLISHED, you should be able to chuck that right out the window...

how pathetic - PLAGIARISM of six words?? I could understand it if they found whole paragraphs, but that not only blows goat, it stinks of malicious jealousy from said other (accusing) body...

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