Kevin's Watch

Montresor wrote:666 views of the NPC index!

Grym. Und frostbitten. Where's LaVey when you need him...?

Replies for Masquerade and Exodus will have to wait until tomorrow night. DK's took some time to work out, and I have an unrelated splitting pain in my skull. The work of LeVay? I'll let you be the judge.

Andrea Chan-Gauthier wrote:[Andrea is feeling kind of petty at the moment. She'll go along with whatever plan they come up with, but she was told not to pretend to be military... so she'll trust Garrius to handle all that stuff for her. If somebody suggests climbing down the shaft, she'll at least use her enhanced vision to look around for rope-like objects (curtains, those little felt rope barricades for managing lines at movie theatres, etc.). Otherwise, she'll just obey orders and be quietly sullen.]

[And if Garrius doesn't manage to save her, she'll make a deal with the beautiful face, come back and haunt his loser ass until the end. Do not underestimate the scorn of a spoiled rich girl.]

She chose too quickly as to which of the Rogue Traders of the Dyanstic line was the greatest?

Andrea notices the banners. They are certainly long, but it would be a real challenge to get them down and then have the person who cuts them free from the top come down safely...

Montresor wrote:She chose too quickly as to which of the Rogue Traders of the Dyanstic line was the greatest?

If Andrea was choosing, Garrius would be back in the Navy. Laurent liked her snarky behavior. He never let other Rogue Traders chastize her in public. He never let the Navigators chastize her in front of outsiders. But, she's stuck with what she's got, so she'll have to mold him into the kind of leader the family needs.

Montresor wrote:Andrea notices the banners. They are certainly long, but it would be a real challenge to get them down and then have the person who cuts them free from the top come down safely...

I suppose pansy-ass "nobles" will get their panties all bunched up in a wad if she suggests "volunteering" someone else to go fetch them for us. Gawd, it's almost like their ancestors didn't rise to the top by fighting and winning against MANY MANY other "nobles" also fighting to get to the top. How many generations does it take to breed the backbone out of a conquering bloodline?

I shoulda played a psyker. Is there some kind of Jedi mind power for this game?

Goatkiller666 wrote: He never let other Rogue Traders chastize her in public. He never let the Navigators chastize her in front of outsiders.

That's a valid enough point. She should have pointed it out.

Goatkiller666 wrote: I suppose pansy-ass "nobles" will get their panties all bunched up in a wad if she suggests "volunteering" someone else to go fetch them for us. Gawd, it's almost like their ancestors didn't rise to the top by fighting and winning against MANY MANY other "nobles" also fighting to get to the top. How many generations does it take to breed the backbone out of a conquering bloodline?

I shoulda played a psyker. Is there some kind of Jedi mind power for this game?

Is forcing someone else to do it the only possible way to get one down? You have to remember that these nobles are the best of the best of Footfall, and suggesting to make one act against their will strikes some as the equivalent of high treason or cowardice. Keep in mind that most of the people in the room are theoretically allies, and that this is supposed to be a neutral ground.

Gabriel objects because he's young and an idealist (but probably one who wouldn't care about forcing non-nobles to act against their will). Galen objects because it would be disastrous for him to be seen to pressgang these people against their will. There's also the potentially more important factor of cowardice. You have to keep in mind that every hero or saint of the Imperium has been a soldier. The society lives off and idolises war and bravery. So, to launch an attack on the sentries and not take part in it would be considered exceptionally cowardly and dishonourable.

But I'm surprised everyone has forgotten that there are also waiters in the room.

Montresor wrote:

Goatkiller666 wrote: He never let other Rogue Traders chastize her in public. He never let the Navigators chastize her in front of outsiders.

That's a valid enough point. She should have pointed it out.

She's new. She didn't want to make waves. And then later, it would have come off as whiny to bring up old things. She almost chastized Praetus for his comments in the original meeting, but since Garrius didn't step up to do so himself, she didn't think it was her place.

Montresor wrote:

Goatkiller666 wrote:I suppose pansy-ass "nobles" will get their panties all bunched up in a wad if she suggests "volunteering" someone else to go fetch them for us. Gawd, it's almost like their ancestors didn't rise to the top by fighting and winning against MANY MANY other "nobles" also fighting to get to the top. How many generations does it take to breed the backbone out of a conquering bloodline?

I shoulda played a psyker. Is there some kind of Jedi mind power for this game?

Is forcing someone else to do it the only possible way to get one down? You have to remember that these nobles are the best of the best of Footfall, and suggesting to make one act against their will strikes some as the equivalent of high treason or cowardice. Keep in mind that most of the people in the room are theoretically allies, and that this is supposed to be a neutral ground.

If they're to the point of crushing each other to death at the sealed doorways, I'd assumed that we weren't acting very friendly anymore.

Montresor wrote:Gabriel objects because he's young and an idealist (but probably one who wouldn't care about forcing non-nobles to act against their will). Galen objects because it would be disastrous for him to be seen to pressgang these people against their will. There's also the potentially more important factor of cowardice. You have to keep in mind that every hero or saint of the Imperium has been a soldier. The society lives off and idolises war and bravery. So, to launch an attack on the sentries and not take part in it would be considered exceptionally cowardly and dishonourable.

Indeed.

To counter that point, I'll point out that Machiavelli was not himself a ruler, he was an advisor. One might say he was a Seneschal.

Montresor wrote:But I'm surprised everyone has forgotten that there are also waiters in the room.

That is an excellent point. I had been wrongly interpreting the following to mean there were no civilians around at all.

Montresor wrote:Garrius and Andrea become aware that there are no guards to be seen anywhere.

By making the suggestion in the first place, Andrea is actually being an excellent advisor. She made a very unpopular but entirely logical suggestion and got slapped on the wrist for it. It's certainly made some NPCs not like her, but survival isn't a popularity contest. Nor is being a good Seneschal.

As for the crushing - that's all in panic. Those who are still level-headed would deplore that just as readily.

I'm not sure why, but my inner view of nobility in the 40k universe tends more towards being vicious backstabbing inbred cretins, rather than having any qualities of character worth lauding.

It's not like I've read any of the novels or anything; maybe it's my American heritage showing through?

It depends on whether you think nobles showing each other deference or respect in public, while privately plotting and warring against one another is a good quality. Couple this with a contempt or, at least, derision an lack of empathy for the citizens of the Imperium, and you have a nasty 'underclass' of the upper class.

Well, of the nobles she's encountered since this trip started, exactly none of them have failed to be inappropriately rude to her. (I suppose if I went back and read, I could find a minor character who was reasonable. That guy at the riot, for example...)

Montresor wrote:

Goatkiller666 wrote: He never let other Rogue Traders chastize her in public. He never let the Navigators chastize her in front of outsiders.

That's a valid enough point. She should have pointed it out.

And Garrius would point out that she represents him and as such should not embarrass him, and perhaps start acting her age. As such, he did not publicly chastise her for the press gang idea. And the response I posted was largely out of me thinking she had offended a fellow Rogue Trader. Would've been completely different had I read it properly to begin with.

Garrius is a very formal straight naval type, so Andrea's uncanny way of doing things is at odds with that. Makes things interesting I think.

Andrea Chan-Gauthier wrote:Well, of the nobles she's encountered since this trip started, exactly none of them have failed to be inappropriately rude to her. (I suppose if I went back and read, I could find a minor character who was reasonable. That guy at the riot, for example...)

Peraton. Peraton's cohorts.

Gabriel. He wasn't rude, he just reacted to Andrea's shameful idea and reversed his opinion of her.

Julient wasn't directly rude. Ambiguously rude, perhaps.

The guy at the riot wasn't a noble.

In all seriousness, though, I'm only having NPCs react to how you play your character.

I will wait for Dorian to reply to Andrea's EDIT before writing up the next section of Masquerade.

Montresor wrote:In all seriousness, though, I'm only having NPCs react to how you play your character.

Oh yeah. I'm not saying she didn't bring it on herserlf. Just that it happened. And in Andrea's little self-absorbed world, the whole world is being mean to her.

Im not gona get a get a chance to reply before work tonight, so if you wanna move things on just assume Garrius's actions. If you would rather wait ill update tomorrow

I'll move it on in a few hours. I will assume Garrius goes along with Andrea's plan.

He would suggest one of the men do it though, seeing such a thing as non befitting of a female noble type, and would look for an alternative to the human pyramid thing.

Also, now that you make it clear that there is Wait staff about, would probably want to have one of them questioned to see if they have suggestions.

Praetus will resume soon.

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HAHAHA! I have only one of those books to go; maybe I will conquer the world after reading it? If he's at a library, why does he need a gun to borrow books??

Kroot

Also, there is a sample Deathwatch adventure on the site. I am giving some thought to running it as a quick one-off, unrelated to this campaign. So...avert your eyes!