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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:31 am
by burgs
I agree - I thought it was used much more - in all of the books. Amazon purportedly scans the entire book.

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:47 am
by Worm of Despite
Runes uses "theurgy" 12 times. I know Fatal Revenant must be close. I start groaning when characters—not just the narrator—use the word. Breaks up the reality for me.

SRD used "myriad" a lot in TIW.

The prologue to my novel will have "puissant" in it, just to tip the hat to SRD. ;)

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:07 am
by Sunbaneglasses
I generally get what the words mean even if I don't know what they mean. Know what I mean?

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:47 am
by Relayer
I see the problem. Puissant is used 5 times in Runes...

But Puissance is used 16 times!

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:43 am
by burgs
AH! How silly of me not to check for the noun form!

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:05 pm
by wayfriend
Sunbaneglasses wrote:I generally get what the words mean even if I don't know what they mean. Know what I mean?
You may think you know what they mean. But you may not know what they mean.

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:48 am
by emotional leper
Wayfriend wrote:
Sunbaneglasses wrote:I generally get what the words mean even if I don't know what they mean. Know what I mean?
You may think you know what they mean. But you may not know what they mean.
Do you have six fingers on your right hand?

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:51 am
by Auleliel
Do you always start conversations this way?

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:05 am
by tgcali
She had become greater than her most flagrant expectations: as efficacious as a god, and as complete.

Um....what? :?

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:42 pm
by emotional leper
Auleliel wrote:Do you always start conversations this way?
I usually start them with some insult swordfighting.

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:12 pm
by SGuilfoyle1966
Plash.
I thought it was a typo. I honestly thought it was a typo. But no. it's not.
You can 'plash' through a brook in Salva Gildenborne, I guess.
I think it would add a flavor to SRD's works if the language in the "real world" chapters were a bit blander, and the grander speech coming when they get to the Land. Kind of like the sepia to color reveal in The Wizard of Oz.
The other thought I had. I do see the point made here that it is sometimes difficult to track all these words down, in the prior workds it seemed to me that SRD sometimes fit the words in as adjectives or as one of a series of nouns where you can figure out from context what he is going for, even if you didn't know the exact word and didn't want to go for the dictionary.
And if you can't find it in even the Oxford lexicon, well, what does that say for working with your readers.
But I thought he used a lot of big words in Fatal, closer to the way he did in the earlier books. But Runes, I thought it just didn't work.
The whole "formication" chapter just had me annoyed. Used over and over and over again, and I thought, initially, it was a typo but contextually, fornication didn't fit. Contextually, seemed to be, possibly, a synonym for vitriol, but it's a bit more than that.
Despite it taking the years it has, and while this series remains as awesome in scope as the predecessors, it seems a bit rushed in spots.
This is where the editor sits SRD down and says, "Having consulted my dictionary, I know that 'plash' is a word, and it is used correctly in this sentence. But are your readers going to think it's an obscure word, or are they going to think that your editor is letting you down?"

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:49 pm
by ParanoiA
Well, but wait a second...Formication is a good word, a quite appropriate word. How many words are there that describe the feeling of something crawling under your skin?

I guess I'm not understanding your issue with the word - did you ever look it up? From your post, it seems like you have no intention of finding out for sure what it is.

I have grown to enjoy these words, perhaps a bit much. I found myself saying to someone at work "oh, that would be a great boon for our department". I think I even referred to the union here as lacking "puissance" one day...

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:02 am
by SGuilfoyle1966
Yaah, I looked it up.
My problem was how the word was used, more than the word itself.
Formication this, formication that. Her whole reality became formication.
That one word played a bigger role in the chapter to me than any particular word has in a prior book.
It seems to me he has in the past snuck the big words in, they are like spices in the sentences. But formication was the main course in that chapter.
(And in rereading Runes right now, I notice that he uses it right at or after the caesure strikes Kevin's Watch.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:35 am
by drew
burgs wrote:....but I wouldn't want to send my readers scurrying for multiple dictionaries. Not everyone is going to want to hunt down all of the words.
I don't think I've ever looked a Donaldson word up.
At least half of his words are described by the text they are in...and the ones that aren't, I just more or less ignore.

more obscurity

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:32 am
by Guest
If you haven't perused it already, you all should check out the offical thread called "Donaldson's Obscure Words" in the First and Second Chronilces Forum.

This link should get you there:

kevinswatch.ihugny.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... highlight=

Way too much fun!!!