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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:25 am
by Injerian Praetus II
Well said, Mirelle. Well said, indeed.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:26 am
by Nerdanel
Here's my oath also:
In the name of the AllFather, I swear that I will not use my power to act against another god or their followers in this turn, nor will I intentionally interfere with the actions of another god, except to aid them against the threats they currently face, and excepting any matter with which a god asks us to provide aid, unless it should violate the first clause of this oath. The independant actions of my followers cannot be taken to represent a violation of this promise.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:32 am
by Injerian Praetus II
For the pantheon to witness and Hedra Iren to record, I am giving Argothoth the cities of Zamaro and Darkmoon - their entire populations (those that do not worship me or follow the King) and their buildings. I will pull my armies out into my new borders, allowing Argothoth to take control with his own forces.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:32 am
by Argothoth
Here is my oath:
In the name of the AllFather, I swear that I will not use my power to act against another god or their followers in this turn, nor will I intentionally interfere with the actions of another god, except to aid them against the threats they currently face, and excepting any matter with which a god asks us to provide aid, unless it should violate the first clause of this oath. The independant actions of my followers cannot be taken to represent a violation of this promise.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:54 am
by Xar
Hedra Iren
Here is my Oath:
In the name of the AllFather, I swear that I will not use my power to act against another god or their followers in this turn, nor will I intentionally interfere with the actions of another god, except to aid them against the threats they currently face, and excepting any matter with which a god asks us to provide aid, unless it should violate the first clause of this oath. The independant actions of my followers cannot be taken to represent a violation of this promise.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:58 am
by Argothoth
Nor Yekith wrote:For the pantheon to witness and Hedra Iren to record, I am giving Argothoth the cities of Zamaro and Darkmoon - their entire populations (those that do not worship me or follow the King) and their buildings. I will pull my armies out into my new borders, allowing Argothoth to take control with his own forces.
Thanks Nor Yekith, i will not forget your gift.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:59 am
by Injerian Praetus II
Argothoth wrote:Nor Yekith wrote:For the pantheon to witness and Hedra Iren to record, I am giving Argothoth the cities of Zamaro and Darkmoon - their entire populations (those that do not worship me or follow the King) and their buildings. I will pull my armies out into my new borders, allowing Argothoth to take control with his own forces.
Thanks Nor Yekith, i will not forget your gift.
*Bows* I welcome a new ally.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:34 am
by Injerian Praetus II
I have expended my energy for the purpose in sealing the rift. Let us hope this is enough.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:52 am
by Bhakti
Yek needs to swear the Oath in the current matter. So far, he has only agreed that he would. (Not loophole enough for me to miss.

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Melirelle wrote:However, Bhakti, the title of the Love-Fool indeed suits you. You may not trust Nor's word. You may not trust my word, Goddess of Birth though I may be. But you need only turn to Hedra Iren who, in her wisdom, knows neither I nor Nor Yekith have touched your child with our power.
And you and Yek need only swear the
Oath to the Allfather that you have not directed any energy at my son, before or after his birth. It is a simple thing, really. Why does Yek not do so?
And what has Hedra to do with your actions? Does she record all actions of all the gods in her Book??
Melirelle wrote:Your mistrust wearies me, especially since I have done nothing to you or your followers since my ascension, and yet you already consider me untrustworthy. What have I done that was so despicable? Destroyed an apathetic god who was content with sitting on his throne while his followers dwindled and his people suffered? Remained aloof while you other gods squabbled? Truly the hypocrisy of the god of Love astounds me. Where is the all-Loving god he claims to be?
In your case, it is not a matter of what you
have done, but of what you
will do - Whatever Yek tells you to. Out of a Love for him so profound that I heard your words, you offered yourself to him, willing to be "enhanced" in any way he saw fit. You became his most powerful servant.
Then, he made you a goddess!! Am I to believe you will not act against me if he tells you to? You are as far from being a neutral party as can be. Because of his past actions against me, and his promises of my destruction, the future is clear.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:54 pm
by Injerian Praetus II
On the Oath to the Allfather I have not directed any energy at your son after his birth using the increase of deific power following the wish. It is up to you to find out if I affected him before his birth.
As I stated before, energy has been spent on the rift.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:11 pm
by Bhakti
I take it, then, that you refuse to take the Oath regarding the wish of increased DRP's? I have made my position clear: If you do not take the Oath, my vote is Nay; if you take the Oath, my vote is Aye. I will not have you acting against me because of the extra Power. Even Melirelle has taken it.
It is odd that you and Melirelle object to my attitude toward you. I never ask for anything but specific words, yet you always attempt to speak in circles. I have never once acted against you, yet you have acted against me on more than one occasion (Twice documented, this last one we know of because you have admitted to it.). My dream has always been for peace throughout Eiran, though I would settle for being left alone, yet you promise my destruction. Yes, I am the bad guy.
Is it any wonder that I do not trust you - by far, the most powerful of us - with even more Power for a turn? But go ahead and refuse to take the Oath. Then you can blame the unused wish on me.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:32 pm
by I'm Murrin
Bhakti:
Nor Yekith wrote:I agree to the first part - that we all receive an equal increase in deific power - and agree to the oath.
It seems we are all in agreement. I will begin to determine how my power will be distributed. Those who have offered aid against the plague: if your contribution is to change because of this, please contact me.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:53 pm
by Bhakti
Yek has spoken of a loophole. I do not know if this is the one he meant, but it is clearly a loophole. He has agreed to take the Oath, but he has not taken it. Yek has broken promises he has actually made, it would be nothing for him to break one he has only implied.
You know, if anyone had ever spoken out for me, or with me about his obvious attempts at deception ("You sent the plague to my lands." "I never created any plague!" "Take the Oath that you did not direct energy at my child." "Well, not after he was born. *wink wink*"), he might have been forced to be more direct in his speach all along. As it is, I ask him to leave me alone, he occasionally delivers a blow, and that's the end of it. Does anyone insist that he not destroy me? Did anyone tell him that it would have been better if he had not kidnapped my followers' children? Did anyone tell him that he should not damage my child? No, No, and No. I want nothing but peace and Love for Eiran, but none will help me. One would think that somebody would share such a dream. But none speak on my behalf. To say nothing of those who have actually acted on his behalf, or sat quietly, knowing his intentions toward me! Well, I will not be the one to feel his hand whenever he chooses, unsupported, and give him yet more power to do more harm against me.
I have never agreed to Option One without the Oath from him.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:46 pm
by Mistress Cathy
Lord Adamorn said:
I work for the good of all from now on. As such, I am offering to provide a police force for any city or town that would have them. They will consist of a platoon of soldiers from my ranks (or more, if you request for bigger cities), and will preserve the peace and hold court for broken laws, each depending on the laws of the city. I will, hopefully, be working with Hedra Iren much more often in the future.
I would much appreciate your force in Magran. With it being the trade center of Eiran and so much money going in and out of it, it would be nice to know that the people would be safe from thievery.
Of course, they would need to follow the laws themselves and I would need your guarantee that they would not prosletyze to my people and in return, my people will not prosletyze to them.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:46 pm
by Simjen
To make it official -
In the name of the AllFather, I swear that I will not use my power to act against another god or their followers in this turn, nor will I intentionally interfere with the actions of another god, except to aid them against the threats they currently face, and excepting any matter with which a god asks us to provide aid, unless it should violate the first clause of this oath. The independant actions of my followers cannot be taken to represent a violation of this promise.
My thanks to Hedra for the wording.
It seems to be decided, though whether or not it will be fulfilled is not certain. I recommend to each deity to inform the Allfather of contingencies in case the DRP is not provided.
Bhakti, Nor Yekith has agreed to the oath. If he lives up to it... who's to say? However, considering the Allfather is the one both granting the extra DRP and confirming its use, I think it safe to assume the threat of him against you is no greater, if not much less, than it would be any other turn.
As for his actions against you, I have never been directly informed of them beforehand, nor have I been asked to aid against them. Had I been, I would have provided what help I could.
If you would ask for my direct petition against him, then yes, I will give it. Nor Yekith, please refrain from harming Bhakti. To every god of the Pantheon I would say that there is so much in the world left to do that attacking anyone could only diminish us all.
...I am a Smith. Generally, conversation or long speeches is not my forte.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:48 pm
by Chisi La'Roo
Bicker bicker bicker. Don't any of you get tired of the mistrust?
You all need a nice vacation.
Here it is, so that none of you get all uppity on me:
7 of my points are going to aid Norn in the closing of the rift. I hope only that that is enough.
3 of my points will be going to solely internal affairs.
In the name of the All Father, blah blah blah, I swear this is true.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:54 pm
by Bhakti
Chisi La'Roo wrote:In the name of the All Father, blah blah blah, I swear this is true.
I DO NOT RECOGNIZE "BLAH BLAH BLAH" AS WORDS OF THE OATH!!!!
OK, maybe I will let
you slide with that.

I trust you more than I trust Yek, at least. As for my mistrust for
him, well, both my cheeks have been hit, and then some. Trustworthiness is not among his strongest characteristics.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:55 pm
by Mithyaat Vam
In the name of the AllFather, I swear that I will not use my power to act against another god or their followers in this turn, nor will I intentionally interfere with the actions of another god, except to aid them against the threats they currently face, and excepting any matter with which a god asks us to provide aid, unless it should violate the first clause of this oath. The independant actions of my followers cannot be taken to represent a violation of this promise.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:08 pm
by Chisi La'Roo
Bhakti wrote:Chisi La'Roo wrote:In the name of the All Father, blah blah blah, I swear this is true.
I DO NOT RECOGNIZE "BLAH BLAH BLAH" AS WORDS OF THE OATH!!!!
OK, maybe I will let
you slide with that.

I trust you more than I trust Yek, at least. As for my mistrust for
him, well, both my cheeks have been hit, and then some. Trustworthiness is not among his strongest characteristics.
I prefer to speak my own words as opposed to repeating something that someone prepared for me.
I made an oath to the All Father that what I said I was going to do is what I am going to do with my points. There are no loopholes in that. There is no deceit.
(I *almost* added that I was going to spend one point to making the best damn glass of liqueur this side of the Sea of Shadows, but I don't want anyone asking for my secret recipe.

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If you'd prefer me to speak the words prepared, then I can cut/paste just as well as the next diety.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:16 pm
by Bhakti
Chisi La'Roo wrote:(I *almost* added that I was going to spend one point to making the best damn glass of liqueur this side of the Sea of Shadows, but I don't want anyone asking for my secret recipe.

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THAT would have been a use of Power that I very much approve of! I tell you, many men and women have thanked the stars for alcohol when they were in pursuit of Love!!
Chisi La'Roo wrote:If you'd prefer me to speak the words prepared, then I can cut/paste just as well as the next diety.
I'm sure you can!

However, as I said, I will accept blah blah blah from you. You may not be on my side, but I do not suspect you of outright hostilities. I only insisted all others take the Oath so Yek and Womb would not complain about being singled out.