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2 is happenstance. We're talking about Terisa.Avatar wrote:I can only think of 2 off hand, once by Artegel and once by Havelock, but I feel there are more.
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Let's see what I can remember....shadowbinding shoe wrote:Wow, cool!
Continuing with the numerical theme, how many times was Terisa saved from a gruesome death by knight(s) in shining armour? (Madmen included)
Yeah, I suspect Shoe just tossed out what he thought would be a relative softball, but I'm not sure we can come up with a sufficiently deterministic definition to get a single number, based on all of the times it has happened.Avatar wrote:Good ones.
Maybe I was being too literal...people unexpectedly turning up when she was alone and threatened.
Some of those, she was already with the people/person who rescued her...
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'What's the definition? What's the definition??' agreed.IrrationalSanity wrote: Let's see what I can remember....
The hallway after the meeting (Perdon and Kragen)
of course.The first time in her room (Havelock, Argus, and Ribald)
ditto, though Geraen also bravely sort of helped.The courtyard festival (Artagel)
a big one. The three foretold riders.The red furry things (Gereden, Argus, Ribald, and Nyle)
I have a problem with this one because Terisa wasn't saved. She was kidnapped as planned. The Tor was saved. Also Congery members. But Eremis got his prize.The King's Audience (Lebbick's last act)
What?Bad timing on Gart's Part (Eremis)
Yes.The Ghouls (Fayle)
I don't remember exactly. Did he defend her or from the raiders or calmed her frantic horse?The queen's kidnapping (Gereden again)
You mean when the roaches almost ate them? The attack was aimed against Geraden but if Artagel and more importantly Havelock didn't help they'd both be dead. Also, Geraden and Terisa were constantly together so it's likely she'd die even if she didn't go to the lower levels. So I counted this one.
That's at least 8 clear cases.
Do we count the times there was general mayhem:
Artagel's second encounter with Gart?
No. This is general mayhem. Though who knows how good communications between Eremis group and the wolves+firecats are. I seem to remember they locked eyes with Terisa? Maybe Eremis gave them Terisa's dirty undies to sniff. So... possibly?The Wolf/Firecat attack at Houseldon?
agreed. she did this on her own so it doesn't count.Her own self-rescues?
- when she shifted the mirror to escape to the Closed Fist?
This one does though. She made it possible, but someone else needed to translate her out of trouble.- when she shifted the mirror to her dungeon location?
as you say. The only one helping her there was Eremis ginormous narcissism.
- when she took out Eremis?
Tru dat.
And I'm sure I'm still missing something. Darn it, pretty much 3/4 of the story is her getting into trouble and being rescued by someone...
Yes I counted those (as two).P.S. Egads more keep springing to mind -
The Champion shielding her from the rubble as he shoots his way out of the castle, and/or the conjury digging her out of the rubble
Quillon rescuing her from the jail cell
Maybe. She wasn't in danger of death that time.The Tor rescuing her from her initial arrest.
you and the lady IS are MN savants.
You mean when she shattered a glass from afar? I forgot about that one. I think it shouldn't count.IrrationalSanity wrote:Well, we've got the furry spider pacman things in the courtyard, but I didn't originally count that because she walked into it eyes wide open, with help just for the occasion.
Yes. That's one of the metaphorical deaths I thought about.Gereden "rescuing" her from her old life?
Maybe. If he didn't, I figure they could lead a good life in our world even if Mordant fell as a result. Maybe they'll become missionaries in third world countries with Reverend Thatcher?Havelock pulling both she and Gereden back from the dinner party?
Ah. Was it really a coincidence though? Or did Eremis stage it all for his joke hero persona? I bet he laughed his ass off humiliating Artagel (and Gart) by defeating best swordsman with pillows.The "rescue" I attributed to Eremis was (IIRC) in his chamber. He was seducing Terisa (or trying, but being interrupted) Gart popped in, but there were witnesses I think, so Eremis threw a pillow at him, which let him know that this wasn't a good time.
Reread a few times more, my boy, and you too could achieve such feats!Skyweir wrote:
The girl knows her stuff ..you and the lady IS are MN savants.
I don't think IS is a girl...Skyweir wrote:
The girl knows her stuff ..
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Aw, what gave it away? The reference to my wife in my sig?Avatar wrote:I don't think IS is a girl...Skyweir wrote:
The girl knows her stuff ..
(I'm outta my league in this one...just watching.
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