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Post by **Loredoctor** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:53 pm

Prebe wrote:Balon: It is not the dreams making you throw up, it is your organism forcing the nightmares upon you to force you into awakening, because there are physical symptoms (nausea), that takes someone awake to deal with.

That happened to me last year. I had food poisoning. Around 3am I was having strange dreams and was half awake and concerned I was experiencing chest pain (stomach acid and bile). Next thing I know I am awake and vomiting violently.

Post by **Prebe** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:56 pm

It is strictly a theory of mine Loremaster. Perhaps you have an idea whether it's actually right?

Post by **Loredoctor** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:00 pm

Prebe wrote:It is strictly a theory of mine Loremaster. Perhaps you have an idea whether it's actually right?

I wouldn't be surprised if the body has a mechanism for prompting the mind to awaken. There are many body alert signals that do the same, so I think - without checking the literature - that you're probably spot on.

Post by **Prebe** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:08 pm

Ain't that nice? I spew out a far flung psychosomatic theory, and the psychologist (or is that psychiatrist?) corroborates!

*dances victory dance*

Post by **Loredoctor** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:15 pm

Prebe wrote:Ain't that nice? I spew out a far flung psychosomatic theory, and the psychologist (or is that psychiatrist?) corroborates!

*dances victory dance*

I'm a psychologist who wishes he was psychiatrist.

Well done, Prebe.

Post by **balon!** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:51 pm

Hey, it makes sense to me. Whenever I'm dreaming, I can never tell the difference in time. It very well could've been the dreams only lasted a few seconds, rigth before I was going to throw up, and STILL hadn't woken up yet.

Post by **Loredoctor** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:56 pm

I wonder how many people have vomited in their sleep and choked on the pre-digested mass.

YouTube · Post by **Menolly** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:59 pm

Loremaster wrote:I wonder how many people have vomited in their sleep and choked on the pre-digested mass.

Uhm...

Hendrix, Joplin, and Cobain?

(maybe?)

Post by **Prebe** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:03 am

That is something I can tell you (without consulting the literature). It is not as uncommon as you might think, but it is normally in connection with high levels of chemicals (alcohol and drugs). Conditions where - I'll wager - many dreaming mechanisms are highly dampened or completely disabled.

For actual numbers you've got to wait till monday, where I'll have full access to all the forensic journals again (damned! Weekends suck

)

Post by **Prebe** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:05 am

Prebe wrote:but it is normally in connection with high levels of chemicals (alcohol and drugs).

Menolly wrote:Uhm...
Hendrix, Joplin, and Cobain?

Heh! QED Menolly, QED.

Edit: Ai! My son just coughed in his sleep! *runs*

Post by **Worm of Despite** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:06 am

Menolly wrote:
Loremaster wrote:I wonder how many people have vomited in their sleep and choked on the pre-digested mass.
Uhm...

Hendrix, Joplin, and Cobain?

(maybe?)

Left out John Bonham.

Post by **Loredoctor** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:07 am

Prebe wrote:For actual numbers you've got to wait till monday, where I'll have full access to all the forensic journals again (damned! Weekends suck )

We can name this week Vomit in Sleep Week!

Post by **Prebe** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:10 am

LOL!!!

Edit: A cursory study (google scholar) reveals that you have to be less than 24 months, more than 80 years or on opioid or analogue medication for the asphyxiation on vomit to be an even remately likely cause of death.

Post by **Injerian Praetus II** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:58 am

Prebe wrote:LOL!!!

Edit: A cursory study (google scholar) reveals that you have to be less than 24 months, more than 80 years or on opioid or analogue medication for the asphyxiation on vomit to be an even remately likely cause of death.

LOL

Post by **stonemaybe** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 10:05 am

Opioid I know, what's analogue medication?

Post by **Prebe** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:24 pm

Dictionary.com wrote:an·a·logue also an·a·log (ān'ə-lôg', -lŏg') Pronunciation Key
n.
Something that bears an analogy to something else: Surimi is marketed as an analogue of crabmeat.

Biology An organ or structure that is similar in function to one in another kind of organism but is of dissimilar evolutionary origin.

Chemistry A structural derivative of a parent compound that often differs from it by a single element.

An opioid analogue is a chemical similar to opioids in terms of use and effect eg. methadone. I don't know how closely related they are structurally.

Post by **sgt.null** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:29 pm

Loremaster wrote:
sgt.null wrote:
Loremaster wrote:Exhausted. Working as a prison psychologist is busy with hard work. I've had to do two suicide/risk assessments in two days, write three reports, do at least twenty other risk assessments following bad parole news, and interview a famous prisoner!
damn shrinks, making my job harder.
Watch it, Null or I'll put you on 15 minute observations watching an offender.

Nice try, Gunslinger.

Lore, we have a psych unit. they offered me a job there because i had worked at the nuthouse. i turned them down. and i still endeed up with psych patients.

Post by **Loredoctor** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:28 am

I left work early, as I have been feeling nauseaus since midnight last night. It seemed like I was going to throw up several times today.

Post by **The Laughing Man** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:42 am

I find it ironic that people who work in hospitals have to go home when they are sick....

Post by **Loredoctor** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:43 am

Esmer wrote:I find it ironic that people who work in hospitals have to go home when they are sick....

I work in a prison.

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