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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:30 pm
by Nom vs. Vain
I know its a little childish.. but some people have speculated that vain will come back and now there's speculaion that Nom will be back... Who would win, if there battle turned against one another who would win?
I vote Vain... but not after one bad ass battle... and he better hope Nom doesn't bring friends....
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:38 pm
by High Lord Tolkien
uh, Vain's not that tough.
Some Sunbane warped urViles could have unmade him.
The Clave could have destroyed him too.
He's proof against most things that aren't directly used against him like a plain of graveling but a one-on-one with a Sandgorgon?
Nom would beat him into kindling pretty fast, imo.
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:15 pm
by Warmark
I'd go Vain, seems to me that only magic and lore hurt him.
Pure brute force doesnt seems to.
EG 3 giants couldnt move him and giants fight sandgorgons.
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:40 am
by Sunbaneglasses
Vain would make a gesture and Nom's head would explode.
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:58 am
by Tulizar
Sunbaneglasses wrote:Vain would make a gesture and Nom's head would explode.

Well put!
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:40 am
by Reave the Unjust
Vain would win that easily, as long as he didn't just stand around and let Nom get close.....
The Sunbane spawned Coursers knocked him away into mud, so maybe Nom's almost supernatural strength could "rend" him.
Actually I don't think he was damaged by the Coursers either.....
Sorry Nom, I guess it's Vain!
A team-up against a Demondim horde would be fun to watch.......from a safe distance!
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:36 pm
by drew
The Sunbane spawned Coursers knocked him away into mud, so maybe Nom's almost supernatural strength could "rend" him.
Yeah but Nom is natural. His existance was natural. The Ruhks and the Coursers were Unnatural, that's why they had an effect on Vain.
If the Elohim could not harm Vain, there's no way that Nom could--it's too bad TC couldn't have used his one power of Command on Vain to save the Haruchai from him.
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:07 am
by callback
Tulizar wrote:Sunbaneglasses wrote:Vain would make a gesture and Nom's head would explode.

Well put!
I'll buy that (assuming that he's carrying Linden on his back and she's threatened in some way.)
I suppose it's possible that we'll see Nom again, but I really don't expect to see Vain.
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:36 pm
by drew
I assume Nom died a couple of thousand years ago, Once the SangorgansDoom was no more, I'd imagine the Sandgorgans lived more mortal lives.
Vain however is now right in LInden's hand
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:04 pm
by Xar
Yet we do not know how long did Sandgorgons live before Sandgorgon's Doom was built... and Nom, after rending the Raver, was definitely no longer a "typical" Sandgorgon to begin with.
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:36 am
by Nom vs. Vain
My point exactly... Nom may have as much lore in him now as Vain does... although he may not understand it nearly as well... except that he's had a loooong time to figure it out too... He certainly figured out telepathy pretty fast... A lore wise Sandgorgon... imagine the possibilities....

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:19 am
by Buckarama
Seems to me Vain was only effected by attacks that were directly pointed at him. If Nom didn't get into anything to funny, like pound the ground to make Vain fall down and go boom, Nom would have my vote.
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:06 am
by Earthblood
I'd go with Vain.
But it would definitely be a good battle.
Too bad we won't see Vain again, except as the SOL
Earthy
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:01 am
by jwaneeta
Nom is made of Win.
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:08 pm
by iQuestor
A thought occured to me -- what really happened to Nom - he rent the raver, he took those pieces and consumed them; did this have any effect? long term, is it possible those pieces would change him in some way?
afterward, he could speak to the Haruchai, but had never done so before. Was this a side effect of rending the Raver?
Does Nom now Rave?
edit:
I think Vain could take Nom, but only if he had some incentive; either Commanded or was saving Linden or something. Otherwise, he would likely stand there and take it.
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:14 pm
by Waddley
iquestor wrote:...is it possible those pieces would change him in some way?
I don't know
iquestor wrote:afterward, he could speak to the Haruchai, but had never done so before. Was this a side effect of rending the Raver?
As I understood it, yes.
iquestor wrote:Does Nom now Rave?
I hope not. I <3 Nom.
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:29 pm
by A Gunslinger
Nom....club-like hands down.
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:31 pm
by Creator
Xar wrote:Yet we do not know how long did Sandgorgons live before Sandgorgon's Doom was built... and Nom, after rending the Raver, was definitely no longer a "typical" Sandgorgon to begin with.
I voted Nom for this reason as well. The rent Raver gives Nom the edge!
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:27 am
by frankELF
I voted for Nom.
Whom I predict shall return as the most powerful Raver of all!
[It's a thought, anyway.]
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 6:32 am
by Gil galad
Of course Nom wins, he's the Nominator
