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Asparagus

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:27 am
by stonemaybe
When you eat asparagus, why does it make your pee smell?

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:59 am
by Lorelei
In 1891 a scientist named "Nencki" had so very little to do that he convinced four guys to eat seven kilograms of asparagus (that's about three and a half pounds each). He collected the pertinent pee, worked some medieval magic on it, and concluded that the smell was due to a metabolite called methanethiol.

So there you go. Nencki claimed that as your body metabolizes asparagus, it produces this smelly chemical, which your discriminating kidneys see fit to dump into the bladder.


Courtesy of Discovery Online

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:00 pm
by Avatar
It's the result of a simple chemical reaction. Asparagus contains a sulfur compound called mercaptan. (It's also found in rotten eggs, onions, garlic, and in the secretions of skunks.) When your digestive tract breaks down this substance, by-products are released that cause the funny scent. The process is so quick that your urine can develop the distinctive smell within 15 to 30 minutes of eating asparagus.

But not everyone has this experience. Your genetic makeup may determine whether your urine has the odor -- or whether you can actually smell it. Only some people appear to have the gene for the enzyme that breaks down mercaptan into its more pungent parts. A study published in the May 1989 British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology found that 46% of 115 people tested produced the odor in one group of British citizens, while 100% of 103 people produced it in a group of French citizens. The ability to smell the by-products may also be genetic. Another study published in the same journal found that 10% of a group of 300 Israeli Jews could not detect the odor. In other words, a person's urine could smell, but he or she might not know it.
--A

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:01 pm
by Lorelei
Just for clarification methanethiol is a member of the class of chemicals mercaptan.

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:21 pm
by stonemaybe
Thank you both!

Av's quote said:
A study published in the May 1989 British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology found that 46% of 115 people tested produced the odor in one group of British citizens, while 100% of 103 people produced it in a group of French citizens
Shall we have an international KW study then, to see what percentages of other nationalities can smell asparagus pee?

Me (Irish) can.
GF (Korean) can.

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:21 pm
by Menolly
I (1/4 of each of the following: Polish/Austrian/Russian/Scot and yet 100% American Jew) both produce smelly urine and can smell it. :(

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:26 am
by duchess of malfi
I am a typical American mutt (part Scottish, Irish, English, Swedish, Cherokee, & German) ~ and my guess is that I cannot smell asparagus pee. 8O I do eat asparagus, and never even knew that it makes pee smell weird. :o

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 2:00 am
by Menolly
:::warning, TMI post ahead:::

I love asparagus, and will eat great quantities of it when in season. But, I notice the change in my urine right away, and it's so bad even Paul and Beorn can guess I've eaten dasparagus if they use the restroom within 10 minutes of me having done so.

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 3:30 am
by duchess of malfi
So then I must either not have the gene that has my body break down the asparagus into the smelly chemicals or I do not have the gene that allows me to smell the weird smell, or both. :?

Given that I love to eat fresh asparugus, either one or both of those conditions are probably a good thing. :wink: 8)

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:21 pm
by stonemaybe
Duchess wrote:
So then I must either not have the gene that has my body break down the asparagus into the smelly chemicals or I do not have the gene that allows me to smell the weird smell, or both
But then again, do you normally smell your pee? Doesn't necessarily stink out the restroom!
Given that I love to eat fresh asparugus, either one or both of those conditions are probably a good thing.
And now, :oops: , you'll be smelling your pee every time after eating asparagus!

(Every time I see you post, I can't help but think of Roquefort's "Duchessss, Kitttttennnnsssss?"!)

Re: Asparagus

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 5:27 pm
by High Lord Tolkien
Stonemaybe wrote:When you eat asparagus, why does it make your pee smell?
Because it smells like it tastes.

:throwup:

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:02 pm
by sgt.null
this thread has put all sorts of unpleasant images in my head. :(

Re: Asparagus

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 3:49 am
by Infelice
High Lord Tolkien wrote:
Stonemaybe wrote:When you eat asparagus, why does it make your pee smell?
Because it smells like it tastes.

:throwup:
Never tasted that.... Asparagus yes... but not............. 8O

Im wondering if eating yoghurt or taking an acidopholis bifidus (sp) supplement might dull the effect :?

Has anyone documented/experienced the effect of Vegemite on renal byproducts? :!!!:

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:05 am
by stonemaybe
Infelice wrote:
Im wondering if eating yoghurt or taking an acidopholis bifidus (sp) supplement might dull the effect
wouldn't think so, as they would affect the digestion, not the metabolism.
Has anyone documented/experienced the effect of Vegemite on renal byproducts
Any Atlantic-crossers know if Vegemite is what we call Marmite? If so, I believe that the scientists conducting the experiments produced inconclusive results because they were so busy :throwup: !!!

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:25 am
by Avatar
It's similar, but not the same.

--A

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:28 am
by Edinburghemma
I eat marmite every day and haven't noticed any renal by-products. Does this mean that I cannot smell funny, odorific urine? I can however smell asparagus tainted pee. What does it all mean???????????

I always thought vegemite was the same thing. Oh well. I am glad I never bought any!

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:36 am
by Avatar
Not the same. :D I love marmite. Not any of the substitutes though.

--A

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:04 am
by sgt.null
marmite but parwill. :)

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:57 am
by Avatar
I'm too lazy to search, but that must be one of your favourite jokes. :D I'd swear you've made it every time I've posted the word marmite. Marmite. Marmite. Marmite. Marmite. Marmite. Marmite. Marmite. Marmite. Marmite. Marmite. Marmite. Marmite. Marmite. Marmite. Marmite. Marmite. Marmite. Marmite. Marmite. Marmite. Marmite. Marmite.

Sorry. Had to get that out of the system. ;)

--A

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:02 pm
by Menolly
OK, Av's loosing it. Maybe this will help.

Roasted Asparagus with Balsamic Browned Butter

Heat oven to 400°F. Spray a cookie sheet with Pam. Put your dry veggies on the pan and season with salt and pepper. I give them a quick spray with Pam on top too. Aspragus then goes in the oven for 10-12 minutes. Times vary depending on the veggies.

Balsamic Browned Butter

2 TBS Butter (must be full fat regular butter)
2 tsp soy sauce (I use light)
1 tsp balsamic vinegar

Put butter in small saucepan and heat on medium until browned. This happens quickly so be close. Remove from heat then add soy and vinegar and stir. Drizzle over roasted veggies and serve.

Roasted Asparagus with Pecans and Sun-Dried Tomatoes

1 pound asparagus (the thin kind in a bunch)
1 tablespoon chopped pecans
3 tablespoons oil-packed julienned sun-dried tomatoes, drained
1 teaspoon extra-virgin olive oil
1/4 teaspoon salt

Preheat the oven to 375ºF. Cut 1/2 inch off the ends of the asparagus. Rinse the spears and pat dry.

In a small baking dish, drizzle the asparagus, pecans, and tomatoes with the oil (I use the oil from the tomatoes) and sprinkle with the salt. Stir to mix.

Bake for 8 to 10 minutes (I still prefer 10 to 12 minutes), or until the asparagus is crisp-tender.

Per serving: 65 calories, 3 g fat (0 g sat fat), 3 g protein, 6 g carbohydrate, 3 g fiber, 0 mg cholesterol, 159 mg sodium