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Today's "music"

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:19 pm
by onewyteduck
This is from my local rag.....thought it was kind of interesting especially in view of the recent John Mayer bashing in the worst songs thread. And, I do have to say that the majority of music being released now (or at least what I hear) is truly deplorable and very, very sad!

www.annistonstar.com/opinion/2006/as-co ... 7w3052.htm
The music scene: Who is waiting on the world to change?
By John Fleming
Editor at Large
09-18-2006
John Mayer is a fine musician. He has given the last few years to creating deep heartfelt blues, some very soulful music that sometimes plumbs the depths of human emotion.

Mostly, though, he's an icon of the bubblegum-smacking crowd, so if you are, say, over 18, you can be forgiven for not knowing him from Bill's house cat. His popularity comes from the fact that he sings lots of lullabies that make the girls scream and the guys feel inadequate, land him in the top ten on the pop chart and make him a truckload of money.

He can be an all-around kind of music man, but one thing he apparently doesn't do is write songs that have a social conscience. Oh, there's nothing unusual about that. Most music of the day is what turns the spirit of the young or the young at heart — love, as in how good it is; love, as in how much it stinks; sex, as in enough said.

John Meyer's got some of those songs, including “Your Body is a Wonderland.”

And that's OK. It's his contribution to making the world a giddy place.

But it was a disturbing song called “Waiting for the World to Change” that gnawed at me before and after I shucked out 99 cents to download it the other day. I needed to make sure I was understanding what the guy was saying, wanted to make sure the music mixed with the words wasn't somehow suggesting irony resided within the lyrics.

I am very sad to report I found none.

And that gave me a stomachache.

Now I feel like my iTunes have been polluted and, I venture to say, the image of the very generation he claims to represent has been polluted.

This isn't a song of love or happiness or even sadness or serendipity; it is a song of defeat, and an outright celebration of apathy.

If the 18 to 24-year-olds of the nation aren't careful, this song could become the ballad that defines them.

What else to make of this:

It's hard to beat the system
when we're standing at a distance
so we keep waiting
waiting on the world to change
now if we had the power
to bring our neighbors home from war
they would have never missed a Christmas
no more ribbons on their door
... it's not that we don't care,
we just know that the fight ain't fair
so we keep on waiting
waiting on the world to change

So, because you don't have the power to change things, you just sit on your rump and wait ..., wait until, .... when? The cows come home?

Let's see. That would have gone over really well during the Civil Rights Movement, the women's suffrage movement, the war in Vietnam, the HIV/AIDS epidemic, the American Revolution, and on and on.

It is a jarringly disturbing attitude especially when you stack it up against the veterans of political music, who have reluctantly come back on stage with messages that prick the collective consciousness — Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, Patti Smith, Bruce Springsteen, to name a few.

If Woody Guthrie were alive, he would not only be mad, he would be strumming his guitar and making a statement along with them. If Pete Seeger were up to it, he would be there, too.

CSN&Y are packing venues across the nation using music of a quarter century ago to stir middle-agers into action. Patti Smith is calling for nothing short of revolution.

Where is the musical outrage?

Well, it's out there, but just not like it used to be. The medium is fractured. We don't listen to the same stations, and the stations, numerous as they are, often don't like the controversial. ClearChannel, that is.

And in fairness, John Mayer doesn't speak for all young people any more than the ardently anti-war band Green Day speaks for all young people.

But the artistic sin he is committing — suggesting you have no power — is especially galling. That's not only wrong, it goes against everything America stands for.

Since when did we ever lay down — even in the face of wrong-headed super-patriots — without a fight?

From a nation that produced icons of folk music like Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger, John Mayer is an embarrassment.



About John Fleming: John Fleming is The Star's editor at large.


Contact John Fleming: E-mail:
johnfleming2005@bellsouth.net


Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:32 pm
by stonemaybe
Don't know the musician, but I don't think I agree with the article writer's opinion on those lyrics.

As I see it, you tell kids they CAN'T do something, and those kids then do their best to do it! This guy could be trying to get a reaction from a generation that don't seem to care. "This is what's happening and you can do nothing about it". So the kid thinks "Hey I don't really care about that but if you say I can't do it, I'm gonna prove you wrong!"And then maybe starts to care.

My imaginary pint is half-FULL today :lol:

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:57 pm
by lucimay
It's hard to beat the system
when we're standing at a distance
so we keep waiting
waiting on the world to change
now if we had the power
to bring our neighbors home from war
they would have never missed a Christmas
no more ribbons on their door
... it's not that we don't care,
we just know that the fight ain't fair
so we keep on waiting
waiting on the world to change

hmmmm. what is the context i wonder. to me, that the kid even SAID this was commentary. doesn't sound like he's espousing an attitude, sounds to me like he's holding up a mirror.
i don't know the song tho. would have to hear it. and i don't want to. heh.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:01 pm
by sgt.null
sorry, sounds like mayer has given up on being an agent of change.

there is a lot of good protest music. bands like Bad Religion, but the middle of the road doesn't want any thinking going on.

there are two great punk comps against Bush. find them, they have dvds with them. great stuff.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:13 pm
by Cail
John Mayer blows. Stuff like his is so hopelessly milquetoast. Sad thing is I've become the antithesis of my parents, "What is that quiet crap? Turn it up you weenie!"

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:07 pm
by Marv
When Green Day are considered the most politicized band in the world I don't blame teenagers for giving up.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:14 pm
by Lord Mhoram
Morrissey, in 2004 wrote:America: The land of the free, they said, And of opportunity, in a just and a truthful way. But it's where the president is never black, female or gay...And until that day,
you've got nothing to say to me, to help me believe...Steely blue eyes with no love in them, scan the world. And a humourless smile, with no warmth within, greets the world.
Morrissey, in 2006 wrote:If your God bestows protection upon you, and if the USA doesn't bomb you, I believe I will see you somewhere safe, looking to the camera, messing around, and pulling in faces.
Who says no one writes political songs anymore? :p

FYI, I also dislike Mayer, and I am also for the most part disgusted with current music...but pop hasn't lost all of its bite yet.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:46 pm
by sgt.null
not sure "pop" ever had any bite.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:23 pm
by Lord Mhoram
Pop in reference to "popular music," which includes all rock.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:40 pm
by CovenantJr
sgtnull wrote:there is a lot of good protest music. bands like Bad Religion, but the middle of the road doesn't want any thinking going on.
The Sergeant rates Bad Religion. 8O I salute you. :Hail:
Marvin wrote:When Green Day are considered the most politicized band in the world I don't blame teenagers for giving up.
Hear, hear. :roll:
Lord Mhoram wrote:
Morrissey, in 2004 wrote:America: The land of the free, they said, And of opportunity, in a just and a truthful way. But it's where the president is never black, female or gay...And until that day,
you've got nothing to say to me, to help me believe...Steely blue eyes with no love in them, scan the world. And a humourless smile, with no warmth within, greets the world.
Morrissey, in 2006 wrote:If your God bestows protection upon you, and if the USA doesn't bomb you, I believe I will see you somewhere safe, looking to the camera, messing around, and pulling in faces.
Who says no one writes political songs anymore? :p

FYI, I also dislike Mayer, and I am also for the most part disgusted with current music...but pop hasn't lost all of its bite yet.
I like that first set of lyrics. 8)

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:37 am
by onewyteduck
Cail wrote:John Mayer blows. Stuff like his is so hopelessly milquetoast. Sad thing is I've become the antithesis of my parents, "What is that quiet crap? Turn it up you weenie!"


:haha:

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:14 am
by balon!
I dont have any problem with Mayer. I dont like his stuff, but my generation is hopelessly addicted to crappy R&B. Man I HATE that crap. I really dont understand the difference between it all.

Plus I can understand how its good to dance too, that makes sense, its ALL BASS! But to listen to it in your car? That is just disgracefull to musicians everywhere.

"R&B" :rocket:

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:55 am
by sgt.null
need some good soul music in their lives. cue the Al Green and then some Ohio Players. now that was some good music.

Cov jr: I have really liked what I have heard of bad Religion. I want to purchase something of theirs (I have them on comps) what is their best album?

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:11 am
by CovenantJr
sgtnull wrote:Cov jr: I have really liked what I have heard of bad Religion. I want to purchase something of theirs (I have them on comps) what is their best album?
That's a large question. I'd recommend either Stranger Than Fiction, The Gray Race or The Process of Belief.

EDIT: On the other hand, if you're most interested in the protest / political side of Bad Religion, you might be best getting their most recent album, The Empire Strikes First. Not as good as the previous album IMO, but excellent nonetheless, and the most relevant to the current political climate. It's the album that features the song "Let Them Eat War" from Rock Against Bush Vol. 2

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:26 am
by sgt.null
thanks, i have the Bush comp and shall look for the newest album. i appreciate the tip.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:52 pm
by Cail
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Have I mentioned that I hate emo?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:18 pm
by Waddley
God, I love emo.

It's like... if every thing else in the world fails me; if everyone I love dies, and all my posessions are taken from me, and my country fails me, if mountain dew goes completely caffeine-free, if a giant man rapes my cat, and Paris Hilton wins a Grammy... if and I get beaten within an inch of my life...

Emo will still make me laugh. God bless 'em all.

Cail, have you ever seen the podcast "Hope is Emo"? Go on, google it. Watch it. It's... well, it's bad. But it's funny. And isn't laughter all that matters?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:26 pm
by Cail
Oh. My. God.

I just watched "The Words Are Dying".....

Now that's funny.....

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:37 pm
by Waddley
Haha, I know!! I love Hope so much. :D

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:58 pm
by Worm of Despite
Man, I want to push the button that will erase all emos.