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The Immanent Grove

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 3:43 am
by Taiga Tzu
Many of you may not be familiar with this - though all should be. On the isle of Roke, in the archipelago of Earthsea, there is a Forest called the Immanent Grove. This is a Forest that no Forestal can think upon without unrestrainable joy! Following are a few things that have been written about these most wonderous trees!
"If the Grove were cut, all wizardry would fail. The roots of those trees are the roots of knowledge. The patterns the shadows of their leaves make in the sunlight write the words Segoy spoke in the Making."
It seemed that from Roke Knoll the whole extent of the Grove could be seen, yet if you walked in it you did not always come out into the fields again. You walked on under the trees. In the inner Grove they were all of one kind, which grew nowhere else, yet had no name in Hardic but "tree." In the Old Speech, Ember said, each of those trees had its own name. You walked on, and after a time you were walking again among familiar trees, oak and beech and ash, chestnut and walnut and willow, green in spring and bare in winter; there were dark firs, and cedar, and a tall evergreen Medra did not know, with soft reddish bark and layered foliage. You walked on, and the way through the trees was never twice the same. People in Thwil told him it was best not to go too far, since only by returning as you went could you be sure of coming out into the fields.

"How far does the forest go?" Medra asked, and Ember said, "As far as the mind goes."

The leaves of the trees spoke, she said, and the shadows could be read. "I am learning to read them," she said.
So for half a month or more of the hot days of summer, Irian slept in the Otter's House, which was a peaceful one, and ate what the Master Patterner brought her in his basket - eggs, cheese, greens, fruit, smoked mutton - and went with him every afternoon into the grove of high trees, where the paths seemed never to be quite where she remembered them, and often led on far beyond what seemed the confines of the wood.
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When she asked about the Grove, he told her that, with Roke Knoll, it had stood since Segoy made the islands of the world, and that all magic was in the roots of the trees, and that they were mingled with the roots of all the forests that were or might yet be. "And sometimes the Grove is in this place," he said, "and sometimes in another. But it is always."
Unlike the Forests of the Land, the Immanent Grove has never been threatened, so there has been no need for a Forestal. But centuries ago, a woman began to learn what the trees were saying. She understood the trees more than any wood have imagined a human could. Since then, there has been a succession of humans living there, each taught by the previous. They are called Master Patterners, and they learn meaning and intent from the trees. The last Patterner came to the Grove in this way:
"The Patterner isn't a Northerner, he's a Karg. Like my wife. He was a warrior of Karego-At. The only man I know of who ever came from those lands to Roke. The Kargs have no wizards. They distrust all sorcery. But they've kept more knowledge of the Old Powers of the Earth than we have. This man, Azver, when he was young, he heard some tale of the Immanent Grove, and it came to him that the center of all the earth's powers must be there. So he left his gods and his native tongue behind him and made his way to Roke. He stood on our doorstep and said, 'Teach me to live in that forest!' And we taught him, till he began to teach us...So he became our Master Patterner. He's not a gentle man, but he is to be trusted."
The equivalent of the Immanent Grove in the Earth of the Land is, of course, Elemesnedene. It may not be a Forest (though there are forests there), but there is kinship. Consider the following conversation:
"Where are we going?"

"Going?" replied Daphin lightly. "We are not 'going' at all. We merely walk." When Linden stared at her, she continued, "This is Elemesnedene itself. Here there is no other 'where' to which we might go."

Deliberately, Linden exaggerated her surface incomprehension. "There has to be. We're moving. My friends are somewhere else. How will we get back to them? How will we find that Elohimfest Chant mentioned?"

"Ah, Sun-Sage," Daphin chuckled. Her laugh sounded like a moonrise in this place which had neither moon nor sun. "In Elemesnedene all ways are one. We will meet with your companions when that meeting has ripened. And there will be no need to seek the place of the Elohimfest. It will be held at the center, and in Elemesnedene all places are the center. We walk from the center to the center, and where we now walk is also the center."

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 5:31 am
by danlo
**plants a Gilden in Lavi Square in Neverness** Curses upon the Dragon-lady who made off w/my Earthsea books!

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 1:20 pm
by I'm Murrin
I always loved those books, but it's been a long time since I read them - I think they're in a box in the loft somewhere...

The Immanent Grove was indeed an enchanting place.

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 4:45 pm
by MsMary
I love these books, and have read all of them. :)

(Btw, shouldn't this thread really be in the general fantasy discussion?)

~MsMary~

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 5:09 pm
by Taiga Tzu
Fantasy? My dear, I can assure you that the Immanent Grove is quite real! You should definitely visit! I go occasionally. Sometimes just to be there alone, in silence. But sometimes I meet Swamp Thing, or the Gardener. And, naturally, the Patterner is often there. (Though, of course, we could all be there and never run into each other. None of us wood disturb another's solitude.)

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 8:03 pm
by danlo
(sometimes I think that Taiga should get 2gether w/Turiya & Lady Thea 4 a pajama party! :D )

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 9:20 pm
by MsMary
:LOLS:


Taiga, btw, I love the quotes you provided. :)

~MsMary~

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 10:10 pm
by Taiga Tzu
Thank you, MsMary. :) I had hoped that some of you wood appreciate them.

danlo,
I'm not sure what a "pajama party" is. There were no pajama trees in Grimmerdhore. But I do not think the three of us are on the same plane all that often anyway, so a get-together of any sort is problematic.

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 3:36 am
by caamora
[/i]Earthsea? Is this a new series I should be reading?

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 4:05 am
by Infelice
Yes Caamora, you should definitely read The Earthsea Trilogy by Ursula Le Guin. Its not a new series, first published in 1968. It consists fo A Wizard Of Earthsea, The Tombs Of Atuan and The Farthest Shore. These books were my introduction to the fantasy fiction genre at the age of 12 and I've been hooked ever since. :)

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 4:23 am
by Fist and Faith
Le Guin continued the series years later with Tehanu, which picks up right where The Farthest Shore leaves off. Then, for the Legends collection, she continued with Dragonfly, which can now be found in her own collection, Tales from Earthsea. And finally, she ended with The Other Wind. Absolutely stunning stuff!

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 4:31 am
by Infelice
I didn't realise that there were more Earthsea books F&F. I'm so excited that there are more because I loved the first three and wished there were more. :)
*groan* My list of books to get is getting longer by the minute. :roll:

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 4:39 am
by Fist and Faith
Glad to be of service. :D Risking danlo's wrath, my opinion is that Tehanu is not as good a read as the rest, which I won't expand on for spoiler reasons. However it is very important for what comes later. But Dragonfly, all the rest of the stories in Tales from Earthsea, and The Other Wind are, imo, her very finest works. Quick reads, because it's just impossible to put them down!

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 10:10 am
by danlo
:| Mongo like Tehanu! But it is different from the trilogy, in it's own way, 4 reasons I can't disclose w/o spoiling...

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 5:37 pm
by I'm Murrin
I bought the four books all in one (As 'The Earthsea Quartet') when I was about 10 years old (not as long ago as you might think) - I had no idea there were more after Tehanu. I thought Tehanu was the more difficult to read, because nothing much seems to happen in it, from what I can remember.
I guess I should dig them out and have another read - I've read them twice, but I probably missed a lot because of how young I was - It's strange, Earthsea was one of the first fantasy series I read, after Narnia - Took me a long time after that just to get to LotR...

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 9:18 pm
by Fist and Faith
I tell you, Tales from Earthsea and The Other Wind are as good as the original trilogy. And if you like dragons, The Other Wind rocks!!. But you must read Dragonfly from Tales from Earthsea first. And the other short stories in it are pretty fantastic. The founding of the school on Roke, Erreth-Akbe, Ogion & his teacher... I tell you, I'm so moved by it all that I'm about to break into my native Haruchai!

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 1:11 pm
by Reisheiruhime
Hmm, maybe I should read the Earthsea books then. :)

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 11:52 pm
by CovenantJr
You should! I've only read as far as Tehanu (not keen on that one, it's a bit sedate and directionless), but the first three are certainly essential reading!

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 9:02 pm
by Ryzel
Turiya Foul wrote:Hmm, maybe I should read the Earthsea books then. :)
Arw Sobriost!

:)

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 1:45 am
by Fist and Faith
WELL
DONE
RYZEL!!!!

:D