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...and a Happy St. Paddy's Day to You!!!
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:10 pm
by Menolly
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:47 am
by stonemaybe
Not gonna register with the Chicago Tribune to read your article, Menolly, so what's it about?
(Corned beef, I have to say, I would have to consider very English, so I'm a little bit worried!)
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:30 pm
by Menolly
You're the second person who told me that. When I posted, registering wasn't necessary. Bummer...
It's the description of a tour of the Vienna beef factory in Chicago to watch them make corned beef.
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:38 am
by Damelon
Stonemaybe wrote:(Corned beef, I have to say, I would have to consider very English, so I'm a little bit worried!)
Really?
A Corned beef and cabbage meal is considered here to be very Irish and is the standard St. Patrick's Day meal. It's tough to avoid it on the day.
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:52 am
by I'm Murrin
Wikipedia wrote:In the United States, corned beef is also associated with Saint Patrick's Day, when many Irish Americans eat a traditional meal of corned beef and cabbage. According to the History Channel, while cabbage has become a traditional food item for Irish-Americans, corned beef was originally a substitute for Irish bacon in the late 1800s. Irish immigrants living in New York City's Lower East Side sought an equivalent in taste and texture to their traditional Irish bacon, and learned about this cheaper alternative to bacon from their Jewish neighbors.
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In the United Kingdom corned beef is commonly found in the canned form, and has next to nothing to do with the cured and boiled version. When served "loose" at a counter is sliced from canned meat, and can also be bought in smaller cans for consumption at home. It is usually regarded as a "cheap" foodstuff. Most of it is sourced from Brazil and Argentina. In the British Army and Royal Navy it has been a staple component of rations since before World War I, and is known as bully beef.
Note that cans of corned beef are usually opened with an old-fashioned key, exposing the cook to the dangers and frustrations of sharp steel.
American-style corned beef is available in the United Kingdom from Jewish delicatessens, where it is known as salt beef, as it is in Newfoundland.
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:03 pm
by stonemaybe
Nice one Murrin!
So we're talking about completely different things, as normal!
(Part of the 'joy' of corned beef over here is opening the tin with the key. The added danger spices up your meal. I'm not particularly fond of 'peeling' the wax and jelly stuff off the meat though! I tend to stick a fork as deep as I can into it and hold it like a big meat lollipop to do the peeling!

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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:05 pm
by Waddley
Stonemaybe wrote:Nice one Murrin!
So we talking about completely different things, as normal!
(Part of the 'joy' of corned beef over here is opening the tin with the key. The added danger spices up your meal. I'm not particularly fond of 'peeling' the wax and jelly stuff off the meat though! I tend to stick a fork as deep as I can into it and hold it like a big meat lollipop to do the peeling!

)
That sounds SO not appatizing...
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:17 pm
by stonemaybe

It's not very appetising stuff, Waddley!
But sometimes, just sometimes, I get a kind of perverse desire for it. Like ...I'll just shut up now!

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:09 pm
by Menolly
It looks like the meat corned beef hash is made out of. No wonder I can never get my attempts at making it from leftover corned beef to turn out right.
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:27 am
by Avatar
Yeah, it's awful stuff. About the only thing you can say about the contents is that it's meat of animal. (At least 75%) I used to love it as a kid. No more though. *sigh*
--A
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:36 am
by balon!
Corned beef sandiwches with black olives on rye bread.
Can't get any better than that!
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:14 pm
by Menolly
With olives? What an interesting concept!
I'm more a hot pastrami on rye with spicy deli mustard or a prueben girl myself now. But I used to love hot deli corned beef on rye with the same deli mustard. I have yet to try a Rachel or Prachel.
I love my Irish Boiled Dinner (Corned Beef and Cabbage with carrots, onions, turnips, Guiness and malt vinegar), but it comes out completely different than a round of deli corned beef. But, I have heard deli corned beef is made with a different cut than brisket anyway, so that would make sense...
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:03 pm
by Damelon
A reuben sandwich is the best use for corned beef.
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:20 pm
by Worm of Despite
Man, corned beef rocks my socks. I think I like it better than roast beef, but that's like choosing between children.
My local deli makes a really good corned beef hoagie. Their corned beef on rye is also great; one of the only rye sandwiches I'll eat.
And oh yeah: chicken salad! That deli makes a cashew chicken salad wrap. Oh man--mighty tasty!