A Fresh Journey to the Tower
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Menolly
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...and so...
I come to Coda. I am already satisfied. Deeply satisfied. I have not even begun to read Coda. Yet, I suspect this is the section some of those who have posted about it regret reading.
I ask you true...
If given the choice again, would you read it? For, as of now anyway, I can put the book aside and not read this last section, with no regrets.
What say you, those who have stuck with me as I made my journey?
I come to Coda. I am already satisfied. Deeply satisfied. I have not even begun to read Coda. Yet, I suspect this is the section some of those who have posted about it regret reading.
I ask you true...
If given the choice again, would you read it? For, as of now anyway, I can put the book aside and not read this last section, with no regrets.
What say you, those who have stuck with me as I made my journey?
Ultimately, you'll read it whether you want to or not. I think its inclusion was totally unnecessary, and it does detract from the overall arc of the story. But King included it for a reason, and I think it bears reading, if only so you can bitch about it.
Oy's loyalty and fate are the best part of the book.
Oy's loyalty and fate are the best part of the book.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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Menolly
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Do you think so? If y'all say I should stop, I can easily return the book to the library without reading it and have no regrets. But, I also know I could hunt it down again at any time.Cail wrote:Ultimately, you'll read it whether you want to or not.
Although I'll never know what Beorn's comment that the ending is not an ending means...
So...one vote aye, read it.Cail wrote:I think its inclusion was totally unnecessary, and it does detract from the overall arc of the story. But King included it for a reason, and I think it bears reading, if only so you can bitch about it.
...tearing up again...Cail wrote:Oy's loyalty and fate are the best part of the book.
*nod*
At least up to Coda.
Read it. Thematically, it's a brilliant and perfect ending.
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. John Stuart Mill
Dear God, I hope I'm not mixing the endings.
The ending is
The coda is
Someone please clarify this for me.
The ending is
Spoiler
Roland opening the door and starting the whole cycle all over again.
Spoiler
The alternate universe in which everyone is reunited.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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Well, in terms of which comes first while actually reading further methinks you've got them switched.
There are two sections, what I call Susannah's Destination and then there's Roland In the Tower.
I'm of two minds. For maximum effect, and in hindsight, I would chose not to read the latter at first. Later, go back and read it--which is in its own way quite brilliant even though King himself comes out and warns you. Loved the line about having written plenty of endings and not one is the equal of "Once upon a time..."
There are two sections, what I call Susannah's Destination and then there's Roland In the Tower.
I'm of two minds. For maximum effect, and in hindsight, I would chose not to read the latter at first. Later, go back and read it--which is in its own way quite brilliant even though King himself comes out and warns you. Loved the line about having written plenty of endings and not one is the equal of "Once upon a time..."
"O let my name be in the Book of Love!
It be there, I care not of the other great book Above.
Strike it out! Or, write it in anew. But
Let my name be in the Book of Love!" --Omar Khayam
It be there, I care not of the other great book Above.
Strike it out! Or, write it in anew. But
Let my name be in the Book of Love!" --Omar Khayam
OK, then I've got them mixed.
I hated Susannah's Destination, loved Roland in the Tower.
I hated Susannah's Destination, loved Roland in the Tower.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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YOU MUST READ IT. It makes the cycle complete, even if it makes you simper and pul! King intertwined HIMSELF into the journey...the least you can do is read it ALL as he intended.Menolly wrote:...and so...
I come to Coda. I am already satisfied. Deeply satisfied. I have not even begun to read Coda. Yet, I suspect this is the section some of those who have posted about it regret reading.
I ask you true...
If given the choice again, would you read it? For, as of now anyway, I can put the book aside and not read this last section, with no regrets.
What say you, those who have stuck with me as I made my journey?
"I use my gun whenever kindness fails"
I spoilered my stuff.Menolly wrote:If Susannah's Destination is what I think you are referring to, I've already read that.
So...Coda does continue with Roland inside the Tower? I figured that but...grumble...thanks Zahir and Cail...
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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