Kevin's Watch

Cruise as Nick? Lacks the inherent sleaze. He wouldn't do it.

Mission Impossible was supposed to be an ensemble movie, but with Cruise on board, the ensemble was killed off.

I don't know what the dynamics were when MI's script was written and cast, but we can see how it turned out. I still say no to Cruise.

CovenantJr wrote:Cruise can act when he puts his mind to it, but everything he's in ends up being a Cruise vehicle, which I think is the point ItIsWritten was trying to make. The first thing anyone sees when faced with a film featuring Tom Cruise is Tom Cruise. The Gap is too much an ensemble piece to accomodate him.

I don't mean to be rude, but that's the case for most actors anyway. Almost ever actor suggestion for Gap characters in this forum are the type where one will say, "oh it's X playing Y". You can't escape recognising actors, Cruise or not.

Anyway, I managed to enjoy War of the Worlds, the Last Samurai, etc without dwelling on who played what or that Cruise was it it. It's called suspense of disbelief.

Tom Cruise annoys me. And he's very weird.

Keev Furaha wrote:Tom Cruise annoys me. And he's very weird.

Weird's got nothing to do with acting ability.

And the ability to be annoying is what makes him a good choice for Nick.

Stutty wrote:I re-read Dark and Hung with Tom Cruise in my head

I have a feeling we'll have to move this to the double entendre thread!!!

Prebe wrote:

Stutty wrote:I re-read Dark and Hung with Tom Cruise in my head

I have a feeling we'll have to move this to the double entendre thread!!!

And the ability to be annoying is what makes him a good choice for Nick.

wayfriend wrote:And the ability to be annoying is what makes him a good choice for Nick.

Tom Cruise as Linden anyone?

Well, both Nick and Linden are supposed to be attractive and well, Tom Cruise is icky. Questionable sanity is very unattractive.

Cameraman Jenn wrote:Well, both Nick and Linden are supposed to be attractive and well, Tom Cruise is icky. Questionable sanity is very unattractive.

Not an advocate of getting Cruise involved but Questionable sanity seems like a pretty good description or aspect of Nick's character. So does the term "Icky" properly describe both the real and fictional individuals.

Nick's sanity may have been questionable, but it couldn't appear questionable or his crew wouldn't have followed him as long as they did. He held them by charisma and force of character.

Look. I say just no Tom Cruise in any SRD based movie ever. I won't allow it. It would be way too horrible for me. So just no.

Cameraman Jenn wrote:Look. I say just no Tom Cruise in any SRD based movie ever. I won't allow it. It would be way too horrible for me. So just no.

Now that's a reason I can agree with.

Well, it's a good enough reason for me!

here, here cammy J!

CovJr wrote

Nick's sanity may have been questionable, but it couldn't appear questionable or his crew wouldn't have followed him as long as they did. He held them by charisma and force of character.

I'd agree within certain limits. Nick couldn't appear completely off his rocker from the start, or his crew wouldn't follow him. But charisma and sanity aren't mutually exclusive. It's perfectly possible to have an insane character be nevertheless attractive and comand a following, especially if said sanity is lost slowly.

Cameraman Jenn wrote:Look. I say just no Tom Cruise in any SRD based movie ever. I won't allow it. It would be way too horrible for me. So just no.

It's a moot issue anyway. Cruise isn't going to take a role that isn't around for the final climax, and he can't be Angus.

What I'm really afraid of is that if he's cast as Nick, the director, producer, scriptwriter(s) will drag Nick's corpse to Earth just to take advantage of his box-office draw, if not his ego.

Mortice Root wrote:CovJr wrote

Nick's sanity may have been questionable, but it couldn't appear questionable or his crew wouldn't have followed him as long as they did. He held them by charisma and force of character.

I'd agree within certain limits. Nick couldn't appear completely off his rocker from the start, or his crew wouldn't follow him. But charisma and sanity aren't mutually exclusive. It's perfectly possible to have an insane character be nevertheless attractive and comand a following, especially if said sanity is lost slowly.

I agree. On reflection, my previous post probably didn't make clear what I was trying to say. For the first couple of books, Nick was seen as a dashing, daring hero with a quick smile and a way with the ladies. A James Bond, if you will. He may have been insane at that point, but it wasn't evident. I don't think Nick actually got crazier, I think he just lost his grip on the facade.

But that's another topic...

CovenantJr wrote:I agree. On reflection, my previous post probably didn't make clear what I was trying to say. For the first couple of books, Nick was seen as a dashing, daring hero with a quick smile and a way with the ladies. A James Bond, if you will. He may have been insane at that point, but it wasn't evident. I don't think Nick actually got crazier, I think he just lost his grip on the facade.

I think there was some insanity. Well, perhaps more towards the end of Chaos and Order.