Bush Warns of WWIII

[A Gunslinger]

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Bush warns of World War III if Iran goes nuclear

Oct 17 11:45 AM US/Eastern

US President George W. Bush said Wednesday that he had warned world leaders they must prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons "if you're interested in avoiding World War III."
"We've got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to destroy Israel," Bush said at a White House press conference after Russia cautioned against military action against Tehran's supect atomic program.

"So I've told people that, if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon," said Bush.

GRRREEEATTT! What an absolute jackass. The leader of the free world should NEVER use such inflamatory language...especially one that has demonstrated a twitchy trigger finger & slow-firing brain to begin with. Whee.

[Zarathustra]

So warning of an impending disaster is worse than the impending disaster itself? Why shouldn't he speak like this? Why is the criticism focused on the one who points out what Iran said (wiping Israel off the map), rather than on the one who said it originally?

Apparently, the rest of the world needs some harsh words because they're certainly doing nothing to stop WWIII. We're seeing it unfold right now, and yet you're upset about a sentence Bush said.

[A Gunslinger]

So warning of an impending disaster is worse than the impending disaster itself? Why shouldn't he speak like this? Why is the criticism focused on the one who points out what Iran said (wiping Israel off the map), rather than on the one who said it originally?

Apparently, the rest of the world needs some harsh words because they're certainly doing nothing to stop WWIII. We're seeing it unfold right now, and yet you're upset about a sentence Bush said.

Bull. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a weak political figure who will likely be ousted in the next Iranian election. There is more to worry about in Afghanistan and Turkey than there is with Iran. In fact, look at what the Iranian gov't has said about MA and nukes. While MA has crowed endlessly about nuclear power... the office of the Iranian President is NOT responsible for nuclear policy. It is instead set by the Supreme National Security Council.

The council includes two representatives appointed by the Supreme Leader, military officials and members of the executive, judicial and legislative branches of government and reports directly to Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, who himself issued a fatwa against nuclear weapons in 2005.

In defense of Bush's shooting from the hip here, I doubt he actually KNOWS any of this, but clearly were he to actually do a little reading of either history books or today's breifs..he might realize that language and thos pesky things known as facts are important.

[Zarathustra]

If Iran is not a threat, then Bush's words were harmless.

[Lord Mhoram]

The usual Bush administration fear-mongering. Bo-ring.

[iQuestor]

So warning of an impending disaster is worse than the impending disaster itself? Why shouldn't he speak like this? Why is the criticism focused on the one who points out what Iran said (wiping Israel off the map), rather than on the one who said it originally?

Apparently, the rest of the world needs some harsh words because they're certainly doing nothing to stop WWIII. We're seeing it unfold right now, and yet you're upset about a sentence Bush said.

Bull. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a weak political figure who will likely be ousted in the next Iranian election. There is more to worry about in Afghanistan and Turkey than there is with Iran. In fact, look at what the Iranian gov't has said about MA and nukes. While MA has crowed endlessly about nuclear power... the office of the Iranian President is NOT responsible for nuclear policy. It is instead set by the Supreme National Security Council.

The council includes two representatives appointed by the Supreme Leader, military officials and members of the executive, judicial and legislative branches of government and reports directly to Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, who himself issued a fatwa against nuclear weapons in 2005.

In defense of Bush's shooting from the hip here, I doubt he actually KNOWS any of this, but clearly were he to actually do a little reading of either history books or today's breifs..he might realize that language and thos pesky things known as facts are important.

Yes, but AM seems to be the mouthpiece for Iran to the world. If he is truly so weak, why hasn't the real power in iran reined him in???
If what you say is true, and it probably is, then why would they allow his to say those things??

edited for atrcoi atrocis artrociu bad spelling.

[A Gunslinger]

So warning of an impending disaster is worse than the impending disaster itself? Why shouldn't he speak like this? Why is the criticism focused on the one who points out what Iran said (wiping Israel off the map), rather than on the one who said it originally?

Apparently, the rest of the world needs some harsh words because they're certainly doing nothing to stop WWIII. We're seeing it unfold right now, and yet you're upset about a sentence Bush said.

Bull. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a weak political figure who will likely be ousted in the next Iranian election. There is more to worry about in Afghanistan and Turkey than there is with Iran. In fact, look at what the Iranian gov't has said about MA and nukes. While MA has crowed endlessly about nuclear power... the office of the Iranian President is NOT responsible for nuclear policy. It is instead set by the Supreme National Security Council.

The council includes two representatives appointed by the Supreme Leader, military officials and members of the executive, judicial and legislative branches of government and reports directly to Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, who himself issued a fatwa against nuclear weapons in 2005.

In defense of Bush's shooting from the hip here, I doubt he actually KNOWS any of this, but clearly were he to actually do a little reading of either history books or today's breifs..he might realize that language and thos pesky things known as facts are important.

Yes, but AM seems to be the mouthpiece for Iran to the world. If he is truly so weak, why hasn't the real power in iran reined him in???
If what you say is true, and it probably is, then why would they allow his to say those things??

edited for atrcoi atrocis artrociu bad spelling.

MA gets taken to the woodshed with regularity, it just doesn't get the coverage that his loony statements get. The crazier you sound, the more you get covered...sounds familiar doesn't it. "I'm the Decider" comes to mind.

[Lord Mhoram]

[[Syl]]

Sounds a lot like the 'smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud' speech.

[sgt.null]

so when do we go to war with Iran?

[The Laughing Man]

just before the elections, silly!

[sgt.null]

awesome. cuz i just know we can win this one.

[exnihilo]

Hmmm. Is he saying something that is false? It seems fairly self-evident to me.

[Lord Mhoram]

It isn't necessarily a matter of the relative truth or falsehood of his statements, ex. For me, it's a matter of (1) his needlessly propagandistic methods ("World War III," etc.), and (2) the hypocrisy of his statements. I think I've linked somewhere around here to Peter Galbraith's article in the journal The New York Review of Books. Basically, what Galbraith points out is that Bush constantly harps on the dangers of Iran, especially that it poses in Iraq. Yet, in order to attain "stability" in Iraq, the US occupiers are encouraging pro-Iranian elements in the Iraqi government, quite brazenly. But nobody in the US talks about it. So basically Bush needs to own up. Either Iran is a threat to us and the world that needs to be extinguished, or it's a stabilizing force in the region. Which is it?

[exnihilo]

Both, obviously.

I'm only being partly facetious.

[Lord Mhoram]

You have no idea how much I appreciate that honesty.

[Avatar]

It's obvious what Bush is saying: "stop Iran from gaining nuclear power, or we'll start WWIII."

--A

[Plissken]

October Surprise: Iran Has WMD!

[emotional leper]

October Surprise: Iran Has WMD!

No, no. October Surprise: Martial Law.

Or Martian Law, for SeaLab 2021 fans.

[A Gunslinger]

The problem i have with Bush's statement, in addition to what Lm has pointed out...is the sheer, unfettered lack of diplomacy that the stement indicates. To envoke WWIII when we have already demonstrated to the world a willingness to go TO war on a voluntary. pre-emptive basis is downright frightening to the world.

Teddy Roosevelt said 'talk softly and carry a big stick', Bush says 'stick your head up your *ss, start shouting, and blindly swing the largest stick you have available'. Jerk.