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Gravin Threndor

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:33 am
by Holsety
Because this contains (admittedly minor) Last Chronicles Spoilers, I'm putting it here instead of general TCTC discussion. If you think that the Fatal Revenant forum is better for general last chronicles discussion than the Runes forum is, just get a mod to move it.

White gold is utterly alien to the land, and yet to me Gravin Threndor, Mt Thunder is in many ways an expression of the paradox inherent in the substance. In Lord Foul's Bane, Gravin Threndor is the lair of the "final boss," the site of Drool Rockworm's operations. It is the home of the cavewights and is a place of incredible peril. In White Gold Wielder, it's been transformed into the lair of Lord Foul. In the last chronicles, Linden is happy to see Jeremiah making a replica of Revelstone, but she tells him to take apart the one of Gravin Threndor. From this we see the mountain as a source of evil, the place from where the Land's doom is directed.

But we also see good come of it. The Fire Lions, which save Berek and the land from defeat, are an embodiment of the volcanic fires of the mountain. The mountain may be the place where the Illearth Stone is buried, but it's also where the original staff of law was found. The forging of the new staff, made from the combination of Vain and Findail, was (in my mind) much like the whole dynamic of White Gold. And if it's where Foul hides himself, it's also the site of his defeat and Covenant's ascension (if you will) to being the arch of time.

So basically GT rocks.

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:47 pm
by dlbpharmd
I think you mean "Gravin Threndor," not "Kiril Threndor."

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:00 pm
by Ur Dead
Speculation: Is Gravin Threndor the place where Loric forged his krill??

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:36 pm
by Holsety
Thanks for the help dlb. Ur ded, no idea on whether the krill was forged there.

EDIT-Kiril Threndor is a place, right?

Re: Gravin Threndor

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:55 am
by Relayer
Hi gang, I'm back from my self-imposed FR exile... ;-)
Holsety wrote:In the last chronicles, Linden is happy to see Jeremiah making a replica of Revelstone, but she tells him to take apart the one of Gravin Threndor.
Linden what? I don't recall that. She was stunned by *both* Revelstone and Mt. Thunder. How did Jeremiah know about *any* place in the Land?

She liked the faery structure in the entryway of the house though - is this what you're thinking of, or am I missing something?

Nevertheless, you're right. Gravin Threndor is a rockin' place!

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:41 am
by dlbpharmd
Holsety wrote:Thanks for the help dlb. Ur ded, no idea on whether the krill was forged there.

EDIT-Kiril Threndor is a place, right?
Yes, the "heart of Thunder," it's the central cavern of Mt. Thunder.

Re: Gravin Threndor

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:17 am
by Workshop Creation
Relayer wrote: How did Jeremiah know about *any* place in the Land?
I remember Linden cursing the creator for not providing her with the repeated warning that he had given her last time. Is it possible that Jeremiah was "possessed" by the creator in order to warn Linden of her unknown trip?
SRD added into the beginning of the novel that Jeremiah had built things block by block - possibly building from whatever he saw in his mind. Linden played a game with him: She would stack blocks where ever and he would move them to the correct spot if they didn't belong, and keep them there if it was fine. It seems to me that he follows a picture, and builds to the blueprints.
Could it be that the creator placed the blueprints/pictures in his mind to warn Linden of the coming assail?

I would've also thought that Jeremiah knew of the Land when he endeavoured to summon Linden and Covenant to the Land in the previous chronicles? Lord Foul had embedded them in his mind?

I do think Gravin Threndor rocks socks, though. I liked the Fire-Lions.

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:56 pm
by Akasri
I'm re-reading RotE in preparation for my first read of FR and just read this part yesterday :)

Linden was shocked at seeing both Revelstone and Gravin Threndor recreated by Jeremiah out of Legos. She had him tear them both down, not just one. The structure she left intact was the tinkertoy castle around the entry hall in her home.