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Ur lord?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:46 pm
by Sill
I tried to do a search on this but couldn't come up with it ...

What does the ur in ur lord mean? It is ever explained? Now I know about Ur of the chaldees but anyone know about this?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:18 pm
by wayfriend
See the Ur- thread.

And the Ur.. thread.

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:32 am
by Sill
Thank you...

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:18 am
by kevinswatch
That has to be in the Top 10 most fequently asked questions here, heh. We should put together a list sometime.-jay

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:23 am
by MsMary
You can do it in your spare time. ;)

Or when you're procrastinating. :P

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:26 am
by kevinswatch
Yeah...I just got tons of that. Heh. (Maybe I'll have some free time in 2010...)

I was thinking you all could make the list for me. Heh.-jay

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:00 am
by MsMary
I'll do it in my spare time. ;)

Or when I want to procrastinate. :P

Maybe. :twisted:

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:35 am
by Sill
I'm sorry about running you guys and girls around - being new here, I'm still learning my way around. I tried to search it and came up with so many hits...

Besides, I thought the number one most asked question would have been why the old lore of the Old Lords wasn't readily understood by the New Lords. I mean, in LFB, Atiaran explains to TC that the chief problem in understanding the old lore and Kevin's wards lay in the translation of the Old Lord's language. Wouldn't the Bloodguard and Giants have remembered that language? That seems to be a huge question to me.

Sorry for the rambling.

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:36 am
by MsMary
Ramble all you want. We all do it. :biggrin:

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:47 am
by amanibhavam
I think they way SRD explained this was that the Giants and Bloodguard had no need for lore and the latter also could not care less about it so even if they could translate the wards word for word the meaning would have remained hidden.

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:22 pm
by emotional leper
How come no one ever asks who the Dur-Lord is?

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:18 pm
by Flon
In Afrikaans we use a form of the prefix ur, written as oer, meaning very old, primordial etc.
oermens = early human
oertyd = ancient time
oeroupagrootjie = great grandfather

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:30 am
by MsMary
Interesting. :)

And welcome to the Watch! 8)

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:22 pm
by Flon
Thanks MsMary

Just finished FR and went to look for discussions and stuff, so that's how I ended up here.

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:32 am
by MsMary
Yay! It's a great site. :D

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:39 am
by deer of the dawn
Newbie here too. But I knew what the ur- thing meant after I looked it up in a standard dictionary. Interesting that Afrikaans retains the word with the same meaning, sharing linguistic roots with English.

Anyone who reads SRD without a dictionary is either lazy or too stinking smart! :D

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:30 pm
by aTOMiC2
deer of the dawn wrote:Newbie here too. But I knew what the ur- thing meant after I looked it up in a standard dictionary. Interesting that Afrikaans retains the word with the same meaning, sharing linguistic roots with English.

Anyone who reads SRD without a dictionary is either lazy or too stinking smart! :D
I've never read an SRD book with a dictionary (perhaps I may note and then look up a word later). Most of the time SRD's vast vocabulary is employed in such a way that the meaning of uncommon words is implied by the context within the sentence or statement. Also in the case of adjectives SRD will often use more than one. Surely there is at least one in the string that rings a bell. ...crepuscular, darkness...

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:08 pm
by matrixman
LORD FOUL'S BRAIN wrote: Most of the time SRD's vast vocabulary is employed in such a way that the meaning of uncommon words is implied by the context within the sentence or statement. Also in the case of adjectives SRD will often use more than one. Surely there is at least one in the string that rings a bell. ...crepuscular, darkness...
I agree.

There are those who say that all the unusual words detract from the Chronicles. I say they add to the magic of the books.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:53 pm
by emotional leper
Matrixman wrote:
LORD FOUL'S BRAIN wrote: Most of the time SRD's vast vocabulary is employed in such a way that the meaning of uncommon words is implied by the context within the sentence or statement. Also in the case of adjectives SRD will often use more than one. Surely there is at least one in the string that rings a bell. ...crepuscular, darkness...
I agree.

There are those who say that all the unusual words detract from the Chronicles. I say they add to the magic of the books.
And those of us who speak Latin or Greek wonder what all the fuss is about :P

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:50 pm
by matrixman
:lol: