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Which is Better--1st series or 2nd
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2002 11:05 pm
by BannorsIllegitimateSon
I am rereading the entire six books this summer and am thoughoughly engrossed again. I am probably happier now reading these books than the first two times (I am older an appreciate the character depths). I was wondering which series do you guys like the most, first or second? I think it is the second for me, because Covenant is experienceing the Land with another and is trying to bring closure to this epic. Although I STRONGLY miss Foamfollower and Bannor.
A mood thing...
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2002 11:28 pm
by danlo
I tend 2 take all 6 books in their entirety. Other than that I think it's a mood thing...If u want Elohim: 2nd, If u want Rahynyn: 1st, More Gaints: 2nd, Bloodguard 1st...that's y SRD can write as many trilogies or perquels as he wants, as far as I'm concerned! 64 flavors! Oh and btw..can u put some sprinkles on those bloodguards, please...

4 me, from a literary standpoint I tend 2 feel that TOT is the best writen book...2cents...
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2002 1:53 am
by Bannor
So hard to compare. I like Danlo's evaluation.
If I were ordered to make a choice, I'd do it on a scale: (on a scale of 1-100)
First Chronicles- 100
Second Chronicles- 99 (based a little on the depressing TWL)
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2002 1:55 am
by BannorsIllegitimateSon
Interesting that u find TOT the best of the three, I am just beginning that book tonite. I loved rereading TWL, I had forgot the despair that Avery felt and the power that TC wielded, cant wait to begin.
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2002 1:59 am
by Brinn of the Haruchai
I have chaned my name from BannorsIllegitimateSon to this. I do this to honor the Haruchai as a people for their valor and nobleness. Plus Brinn is cool and Bannor was already taken
urrrrrr......
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2002 2:03 am
by fightingmyinstincts
This is a hard question...I like the 2nd better, but the best scene is in TPTP....the closing fight, that's just cool. The 2nd is more emotionally nerve-racking, so it never gets boring. And there's a wider range of stuff happening.
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 5:07 pm
by Tohrm
I can't choose!! they are both so well written that there is no way that I can choose between one or the other. As far as I am concerned, they are just parts of the same. Each of them has good points, as well as bad. And it just depends on what you are in the mood for at a given point in time. Danlo pretty much said it all.
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 10:21 pm
by CovenantJr
No contest, the first chronicles. Although the second chronicles are emotionally involving - with moments of despair, joy, hope, and just coolness (I'm talking about Nom) - to me, the first chronicles just work better. I find them better written, better conceived, and nothing in the second chronicles matches the emotional reaction I felt during Hile Troy's blindness in that city (I forget the name); Lord Mhoram's victory; evil Elena; TC with a broken ankle, dragging himself slowly and agonisingly through the bitter cold of Lord Foul's unnatural winter, muttering "hate" over and over; Mhoram at the very limit of his misery and desperation, seeing the glow of the krill's gem through his tears... It just goes on and on. Maybe I can't put my finger on exactly what makes the difference for me, but there's something in the first chronicles that lifts it above the second, and indeed above anything else I've read.
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 10:32 pm
by kevinswatch
Wow. Very hard choice. But I'll probably have to go with the First Chronicles, if only because it doesn't have Linden. Although the Second ruled because it had Pitchwife. ARG! In conclusion, they both rule.-jay
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2002 3:42 am
by Bannor
Brinn, thanks for the change in name. I didn't remember having an affair: besides, there are no illegitimate children, just illegitimate parents!
I really liked the character, Brinn!
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 1:06 am
by Lord Mhoram
I loved both, but the First was better because it had Bloodguard Ranhyn the Lords, and I kinda liked Covenant without the wild magic, wild magic is cool, but I liked the plain Unbeliever.
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 1:34 pm
by CovenantJr
Yes, the wild magic lost something for me, some sense of mystery or unrealised potential, when Covenant was waving it around every couple of minutes...
First is First
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2002 12:43 am
by MisterA.
The first chronicles really set the standard. Maybe it was just sad seeing the land messed up in the second go around. I feel that the Land is a character in and of itself. During the first three books it was a place of beauty and wonder. During the second set it became more like Florida during the hot, hurricane season. I can say that because I am from there.

Seriously, seeing the land raped on every page was a bit nerve wracking but the quest for TOT broke it up. I loved them all but I feel attached to the first.
Chad
Re: First is First
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2002 1:06 am
by Lord Mhoram
I agree. The first was definitely better.
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2002 2:45 am
by Sivit na-Morham
I enjoyed them both every time I have read them. My favorite book is TWL. I have read that many of you rate TWL lower than the others. For me the most frustrating thing about the first Chronicles is TC's refusal to take matters into his own hands. In the second Chronicles he comes into his own and I could have
CHEERED when he freed the Haruchai and Linden and killed my
namesake . The more power he got the more I knew the end was going to be great.
There is power in contradiction
Often having power means that you also have the choice not to use it.
Sivit
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2002 2:53 am
by CovenantJr
TC's refusal to "take matters into his own hands" was actually one of the (many) things I liked about the first Chronicles. It made him real.
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2002 8:04 pm
by Lord Mhoram
I definitely agree. I didnt like the wild magic that much....he was still real...his conflict with the venom, and Linden, but I liked him more in the First Chronicles.
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2002 7:44 pm
by Guest
I guess I just like the old fashioned hero, or maybe it is just what I am used to. I did enjoy the first chronicles very much, but with so many in the land expecting so much I just got frustrated thats all.
Sivit
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 4:42 am
by Foamfollower1013
I like the First Chronicles better. The Second Chronicles were pure torture to read, and everything felt wrong. It was like I'd become attuned to the Land while reading the First Chronicles...developed a kind of health-sense of my own...and then when I read the Second Chronicles, I felt the wrongness much more acutely.
~Foamy~
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 7:36 pm
by danlo
good point Foamy! I felt the same way 2! I think the next time I reread the Chrons I will start w/TWL might b a very dif feel. Have fun during ur month in England! We'll miss u!