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The VOICE

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 6:12 pm
by thewormoftheworld'send
The Creator was the Voice at the end of the first Chronicles, TC was the Voice at the end of the Second. Who will be the Voice at the end of the Last Chronicles?

I say, the Worm.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:37 pm
by Mysteweave
Anele is my first choice (though, he isn't from outside the Land, so I don't know if that's even possible). Failing that, TC again - they are his chronicles, after all!

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:00 pm
by danlo
Sheriff Lytton, "Ha, ha, they're all dead!" :biggrin:

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:59 pm
by wayfriend
There won't be a voice. There won't be a Land, so there won't be anyone to speak to whomever survives. Also, no one who is summoned is alive in the real world, so they won't be returning back at the end anyway. And finally, the end of the Final Cs will be so triumphant and so complete that there simply won't be a need for anyone to be thanked.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:32 pm
by danlo
I thought I just said that! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:41 pm
by rdhopeca
And finally, the end of the Final Cs will be so triumphant and so complete that there simply won't be a need for anyone to be thanked.
We hope! 8O

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:17 pm
by High Lord Tolkien
It will be the voice of Linden Avery going over her notes about her patient TC finally dying from complications due to leprosy. She will make note of the delirious ravings he had in his last few hours and comment that it must have been "one hell of a dream".

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:35 pm
by thewormoftheworld'send
The ending of The Last Dark will be similar in form to that of the last Matrix. TC's prediction that he and LF are "the same" will become literally true. LF will possess TC by his own permission, as Neo allowed Smith to imprint his programming on Neo and "possess" him. It will seemingly be the end of everything.

Unfortunately for LF, this act will give the Creator the ability to reach his hand, not through the Arch of Time, but 'around' it by going through Covenant/Foul himself, just as the Machines were able to reach Smith through Neo/Smith and destroy him.

LF will be destroyed, and the Earth, completely ravaged by skurj and all its Earthpower corrupted, will magically return to its former glory, before the arrival of Foul, via the hand of its Creator.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:02 pm
by kevinswatch
The final voice will be of SRD himself saying, "Sucker!!!"

-jay ;)

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:23 pm
by thewormoftheworld'send
SRD thinks he can "do what they don't expect." But all you have to do is watch the Matrix movies.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:08 pm
by rdhopeca
TheWormoftheWorld'sEnd wrote:SRD thinks he can "do what they don't expect." But all you have to do is watch the Matrix movies.
I'll pass. The Matrix movies were disappointing. I have faith that the Last Chronicles won't be.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:21 pm
by thewormoftheworld'send
rdhopeca wrote:
TheWormoftheWorld'sEnd wrote:SRD thinks he can "do what they don't expect." But all you have to do is watch the Matrix movies.
I'll pass. The Matrix movies were disappointing. I have faith that the Last Chronicles won't be.
Then you must have watched some Matrix at least? The similarities there are also striking. They are very nearly identical.

Let's just start with the line "the dreams of men ; belong to God". And consider the fact that in the Matrix movies the dreams of men were created by the Machines, a movie metaphor for God.

The similarities go on and on. That's why I predict that, at the end, TC will be possessed by LF just as Neo was "possessed" by Agent Smith, by permission. In the Matrix, this "possession" gave the Machines the ability to reach into the dream world and destroy all the Smith copies. The dream world was then returned to normal. In TLD, TC's possession will allow the Creator to reach into the Land and destroy LF, and return the skurj ravaged Earth back to normal.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:14 pm
by Rigel
TheWormoftheWorld'sEnd wrote: just as Neo was "possessed" by Agent Smith, by permission. In the Matrix, this "possession" gave the Machines the ability to reach into the dream world and destroy all the Smith copies. The dream world was then returned to normal.
Is that what that meant? I thought they were comparing Neo and Smith to Matter / Antimatter, and saying that opposites couldn't coexist (a view I disagree with, fwiw).

Your explanation makes more sense.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:48 pm
by thewormoftheworld'send
Rigel wrote:
TheWormoftheWorld'sEnd wrote: just as Neo was "possessed" by Agent Smith, by permission. In the Matrix, this "possession" gave the Machines the ability to reach into the dream world and destroy all the Smith copies. The dream world was then returned to normal.
Is that what that meant? I thought they were comparing Neo and Smith to Matter / Antimatter, and saying that opposites couldn't coexist (a view I disagree with, fwiw).

Your explanation makes more sense.
I never mentioned Matter or Antimatter. I wouldn't employ pop physics in order to understand this.

Opposites, contradictions, do exist; the Land is a paradox, those who visit it from the "real" world become part of it. At base, the paradox lies within human nature: the opposites of free-will versus determinism. The Land is a "place" where these conflicts are represented in us as dreams.

Pop philosophy? Maybe. But it's still more of a clue than SRD gives us.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:04 pm
by AjK
My guess is the Theomach. Call me crazy.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:22 pm
by thewormoftheworld'send
AjK wrote:My guess is the Theomach. Call me crazy.
Yes. You may as well have said Barack Obama.

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:19 am
by jacob Raver, sinTempter
I think we're going to find out that, indeed...

...Lord Foul is his (TCs) father!

And the Creator's his sister.

And Linden's actually a little green goblin.

And Troy is a wookie with branches.

Last hope

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:11 pm
by SkurjMaster
I agree with an earlier poster that the voice (if any) will be Anele's. Hasn't he been identified as the Land's Last hope? Not Linden. Not TC. Anele's story is far from finished.

I think Linden will be 'moved aside' much as TC was from the first to the second Chrons.

Just some idle thoughts.

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:52 am
by thewormoftheworld'send
Umm, nah. Linden will remain the focal point of the LC, only the POV will change.