The meaning of The Last Dark
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:55 pm
The title "The Last Dark" is a reference to the void. And yet, even "in the most profound chasms, the wind still blows."
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With all due respect, you don't know that.TheWormoftheWorld'sEnd wrote:The title "The Last Dark" is a reference to the void. And yet, even "in the most profound chasms, the wind still blows."
Maybe, but I didn't go into much detail, I've just been waiting for a response such as yours.Attest wrote:With all due respect, you don't know that.TheWormoftheWorld'sEnd wrote:The title "The Last Dark" is a reference to the void. And yet, even "in the most profound chasms, the wind still blows."
It is possible, nigh probable, but there are other things it could refer to, death among others.
It is indeed probable that SRD does plan on the end of the Land, the current theme of the Last Chronicles is certainly one of letting go of the Land (or, rather, the destruction of the Land) but the Last Dark could be the void of the destruction of the Land and its world, or it could be something more abstract or subjective (the death of a PoV character.)TheWormoftheWorld'sEnd wrote:Maybe, but I didn't go into much detail, I've just been waiting for a response such as yours.Attest wrote:With all due respect, you don't know that.TheWormoftheWorld'sEnd wrote:The title "The Last Dark" is a reference to the void. And yet, even "in the most profound chasms, the wind still blows."
It is possible, nigh probable, but there are other things it could refer to, death among others.
I certainly agree with you in that the title can refer to many things even in SRD's own mind, and by his own intention. That makes it a real curiosity.
But recall that when traveling between worlds during summons they experience a sense of an enormous void and a strong wind. Even in the void between worlds there is still something. Even if you are completely stripped of mind, intellect and personality, the spirit within you lives on and cannot be erased. This is a lesson SRD stated he learned from an author he particularly enjoys, Patricia McKillip.
There is no doubt in my mind that SRD plans on destroying the Land and the Earth in which it resides, leaving nothing but darkness and the void. But the spirit that created the Land lives on. And I believe it will bring the Land back to life again.
Like I said, the title can have many meanings even in SRD's own mind. And since the theme of the Last Chronicles is acceptance, as SRD stated, that would be the last of the five "stages of death": denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance (Elizabeth Kubler Ross). But it is not so much acceptance of death as it is acceptance of a fundamental law of the universe that cannot be broken: that death begets new life, and indeed, death is necessary to make room for new life and growth. This, I submit, is the Law of Creation.Attest wrote:It is indeed probable that SRD does plan on the end of the Land, the current theme of the Last Chronicles is certainly one of letting go of the Land (or, rather, the destruction of the Land) but the Last Dark could be the void of the destruction of the Land and its world, or it could be something more abstract or subjective (the death of a PoV character.)TheWormoftheWorld'sEnd wrote:Maybe, but I didn't go into much detail, I've just been waiting for a response such as yours.Attest wrote: With all due respect, you don't know that.
It is possible, nigh probable, but there are other things it could refer to, death among others.
I certainly agree with you in that the title can refer to many things even in SRD's own mind, and by his own intention. That makes it a real curiosity.
But recall that when traveling between worlds during summons they experience a sense of an enormous void and a strong wind. Even in the void between worlds there is still something. Even if you are completely stripped of mind, intellect and personality, the spirit within you lives on and cannot be erased. This is a lesson SRD stated he learned from an author he particularly enjoys, Patricia McKillip.
There is no doubt in my mind that SRD plans on destroying the Land and the Earth in which it resides, leaving nothing but darkness and the void. But the spirit that created the Land lives on. And I believe it will bring the Land back to life again.
I said something similar to that in another post recently. At least one other post. I'm just talking about the title. What happens after the title comes true is another question. Death begets life, darkness begets light.Beyondthebreach wrote:Ha! I've read similar discussion threads on this . . . all of you have such a gloomy outlook!
Not me though . . . I may be the only one, but I really feel that "The Last Dark" refers to the final defeat of despite.
No more will it's darkness threaten the Land.
You'll see - it's all going to end a lot happier then everyone thinks. Sure, bad stuff will happen, but the final victory of "Good" is at hand.
Linden and Covenant may even get a little "happily ever after" time in the Land.
(No, I'm not naive . . . I'm serious . . . ya'll just wait!)
The Arch apparently still holds, despite the devastation around Earthrootstair wrought by Linden which didn't exist in 1st Chronicles when Elena and TC went, so I don't see the Insequent using some lore to go back and "fix" things necessarily breaking the Arch.TheWormoftheWorld'sEnd wrote:1. Such an act would destroy the Arch along with the Insequent.
2. I don't see any pockets of time happening. In AATE, LA and TC will travel by Dromond back to the Isle of the One Tree to confront the menace of the Worm's awakening.
By me, you mean?Seven Words wrote:The Arch apparently still holds, despite the devastation around Earthrootstair wrought by Linden which didn't exist in 1st Chronicles when Elena and TC went, so I don't see the Insequent using some lore to go back and "fix" things necessarily breaking the Arch.TheWormoftheWorld'sEnd wrote:1. Such an act would destroy the Arch along with the Insequent.
2. I don't see any pockets of time happening. In AATE, LA and TC will travel by Dromond back to the Isle of the One Tree to confront the menace of the Worm's awakening.
The Arch of Time was formed from Wild Magic, so I can't see why Wild Magic couldn't be used to "create" or "maintain" pockets of Time.
Of course, while these seem the most likely ones to me, I'm quite certain that when The Last Dark is published, I will be shown to have been fantastically misled.
No, I meant misled as in I arrived at wholly erroneous conclusions. I need no assistance to go astray, I manage quite well on my own.TheWormoftheWorld'sEnd wrote:By me, you mean?Seven Words wrote:The Arch apparently still holds, despite the devastation around Earthrootstair wrought by Linden which didn't exist in 1st Chronicles when Elena and TC went, so I don't see the Insequent using some lore to go back and "fix" things necessarily breaking the Arch.TheWormoftheWorld'sEnd wrote:1. Such an act would destroy the Arch along with the Insequent.
2. I don't see any pockets of time happening. In AATE, LA and TC will travel by Dromond back to the Isle of the One Tree to confront the menace of the Worm's awakening.
The Arch of Time was formed from Wild Magic, so I can't see why Wild Magic couldn't be used to "create" or "maintain" pockets of Time.
Of course, while these seem the most likely ones to me, I'm quite certain that when The Last Dark is published, I will be shown to have been fantastically misled.
It was stated in the last two books that altering the past in the way you suggested would break the Arch. That means changing the history of the Land. The incident at Earthrootstair did not change history.
Wild magic is capable of amazing things. Maybe they should use it to knock the Worm on the head and put it back to sleep. Wouldn't that be as plausible as your idea?
It means "death."DWOLF wrote:The last Dark is a reference to Lindens black moods.
I don't know, I haven't died yet.Mr. Broken wrote:I thought when you died you saw a bright light.