Kevin's Watch

I hope I don't sound too stupid but I cannot begin to pronounce some of the words in the chronicles, i.e., amanibhavan, Coercri, jheherrin, Caer or Caerroil. I'm usually pretty good in English and all but maybe some of you more intelligent folk can help me!

Ive found most of those words excluding amanibhavan, and to some extent jheherrin to be pretty fenetic. I could never say amanibhavan. But I think these words sound so weird because its in the Lands Old Lords language, thats what Im guessing.

Yes, I pronounce most of them more or less phonetically... 'a-man-ib-have-em' and 'jeh-her-rin' for example...

Except caer, which is a Welsh word, and is (I believe) pronounced 'kire'.

Thanks! Although, it's funny, every time I read the books, I just kind of skip over those words!

I know exactly what you mean, Caamora . I know what the words are....I just dont really read them...yu know what I mean....

Yes, my favorite is warward which is very hard for me to say: I mean, try saying war twice and add a d. And if you think of the definition (Which SRD doesn't give us): war=armed conflict + ward=to keep watch over or protect: so warward=to protect a war?

Warward is a made-up name created by SRD. Its the army of Revelstone.

But, as with several names in TCTC, it is comprised of words that roughly define it's purpose.........I see Warward as being protection against war, or protection of the people in the event of a war...

Another example that springs to mind is Revelstone...the Giants certainly do 'revel' in 'stone'........

Ive never thought of the connection between SRD's "combo words". Thats interesting when I think about it. Can anyone think of any others..... I cant.

a ward can also mean a 'division' 'unit' or 'group' .. so perhaps it also refers to a war division/unit/ or army ..

warhaft .... meaning the war .. - haft = handle .. the one in control of the blade .. or as it indeed was .. the commander of the Eomen

there are heaps of others but alas my time is short ..

try pronouncing what i become??
No ownder he(i) was(am) such a bad man. people try to pronounce the name and are getting the snot kicked out of them

My point exactly, Brinn!!

Yes Warward is the very personification of the Oath of Peace!!!!!

Brinn of the Haruchai wrote:try pronouncing what i become??
No ownder he(i) was(am) such a bad man. people try to pronounce the name and are getting the snot kicked out of them

lol, haha!

Er.........is Brinn the one who becomes Ak-Haru Kenaustin Ardenol? Again, phonetic...

someone once told me that warward, warhaft, eoman are of Germanic origin, used in armies in Germany

Thats interesting! But when you think about it, its something SRD would do!

LoTR is no different, in fact it's more complicated as Tolkien uses accents in his names, and who before the film came out thought Rohan was pronounced Ro-ann and not Ro-han?

It's all in the way you read it for the first time. My brother always thought Coercri was pronounced Co-er-see, without the 'r', it was only when I showed him the 'r' is there he realised it. He still pronounces it Co-er-see. Mind you, he read the 2nd Chronicles first, then the 1st so what does he know?

Also Mithil Stonedown? Mith-ill or Mit-hill?

And what about Arghuleh? I think it's Ar-gu-lay.

I asked Donaldson once about the pronounciation of some of the words. The topic we were discussing at the time was Ramen. Seems like a simple word - "ray-men". However, he reminded me that he spent his childhood in India, and they use the soft a sound. So Ramen is actually "rah-men".

I don't know if that works for all the words - the leading A in Atiaran, for example. But I'd tend to use the soft a sound now (instead of the a in "gate" or "cat") for words like Ranyhyn (rahn-i-hin), and amanibhavm (ah-mahn-....).

cool. i've always pronounced it in my head just like the noodles.

of course, this is coming from a guy who has to make a conscious effort not to think "Seer Each" instead of "Sea Reach." Foreign languages will do some weird things to your english skills.

I'm interested in how many conversations you have had with SRD Romeo?? was it just at that one conference or was he a tutor/lecturer/professor of yours??