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Name Pronunciation
Mods, you can go ahead and start throwing rocks and rotten tomatoes at me, because this has probably been discussed dozens of times in hundreds of different threads. But I been looking and looking and haven't figured out where to look, at least not as far as Mordant's Need is concerned. I know there is a Name Meaning thread, but pronunciation is barely mentioned there, as far as I can tell, and I didn't want to pull it off topic.
Self-Explanatory thread, really. How do you pronounce them?
I know the basic rules and structure of the English language, but I can't possibly make my brain read/pronounce in my head Geraden and Artagel with soft G's.
Ah hell, I'll list them:
Geraden: GAIR-uh-den
Artagel: ART-uh-gel (hard g)
Joyse: joice (like rejoice)
Myste: MIST
Kragen: Craig N. ; KRAY-gen (hard g)
Basically, like I said, I can't get the hard G's out of my head, and I mention Joyse and Myste because I stumble on those a lot, testing out how JOY-zee and MISS-tee feel/sound. Wonder how it all works out for others. Those are the only ones I can think of right now.
Self-Explanatory thread, really. How do you pronounce them?
I know the basic rules and structure of the English language, but I can't possibly make my brain read/pronounce in my head Geraden and Artagel with soft G's.
Ah hell, I'll list them:
Geraden: GAIR-uh-den
Artagel: ART-uh-gel (hard g)
Joyse: joice (like rejoice)
Myste: MIST
Kragen: Craig N. ; KRAY-gen (hard g)
Basically, like I said, I can't get the hard G's out of my head, and I mention Joyse and Myste because I stumble on those a lot, testing out how JOY-zee and MISS-tee feel/sound. Wonder how it all works out for others. Those are the only ones I can think of right now.
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My inclination has been soft g for Geraden and Artagel, as well as Margonal. Hard g for Kragen (all accented on first syllable), and a long a for Kragen.
Silent e for Myste and Joyse.
Barsonage = Parsonage with a b.
Quillon = I vary between Quill-un and key-Ohn (sort of French).
Silent e for Myste and Joyse.
Barsonage = Parsonage with a b.
Quillon = I vary between Quill-un and key-Ohn (sort of French).
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I pronounce Geraden with a hard g, mainly because in German gerade means 'just, straight, direct' etc. so I think the name refers to that.
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IrrationalSanity wrote:My inclination has been soft g for Geraden and Artagel, as well as Margonal. Hard g for Kragen (all accented on first syllable), and a long a for Kragen.
I am inclined toward a soft G for Marogonal as well.
That's crazy. I am reading hard G's where they should be soft, and soft ones where they should be hard.
Geraden - Sounds like the beginning of Jerry....(if that makes sense ^^)
Joyse - Joice
Myste - Mist (Only because that's how I pronounce my name)
Kragen - Like a cray fish ^^ lol Cray-gen (Sounding like gun but with an 'en' sound like end)
Margonal - Like Margin, but with an O. Margin-OL
Artagel - Art-a-gel (Gel like the beginning of Gelding)
Barsonage - Like the aforementioned Parsonage with a 'b' ^^
Lebbick - Leb-Ick
Quillon - Quill-on (exactly how its spelt ^^)
Obviously I suck at describing how things sound...buuut, if you can all understand that then its all good ^^
Joyse - Joice
Myste - Mist (Only because that's how I pronounce my name)
Kragen - Like a cray fish ^^ lol Cray-gen (Sounding like gun but with an 'en' sound like end)
Margonal - Like Margin, but with an O. Margin-OL
Artagel - Art-a-gel (Gel like the beginning of Gelding)
Barsonage - Like the aforementioned Parsonage with a 'b' ^^
Lebbick - Leb-Ick
Quillon - Quill-on (exactly how its spelt ^^)
Obviously I suck at describing how things sound...buuut, if you can all understand that then its all good ^^
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So the Q makes an M sound, the U is silent, and the second S makes a T sound? Interesting ...Quiss wrote:Myste - Mist (Only because that's how I pronounce my name)
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Ger-AH-den (soft g)
Joice (as in re-joice)
Mist
ART-a-gel (hard g)
MARG-o-nel (hard g)
Joice (as in re-joice)
Mist
ART-a-gel (hard g)
MARG-o-nel (hard g)
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The problem with your way of mentally pronouncing the King's name, Shadowbinding Shoe, is that it makes you regularly mis-spell it. (But hey, that's no crime, and I always know to whom you are referring! I very much appreciate all your terrific contributions to this forum; please know that!!!) It's not "Joyce" like a woman's name; it's Joyse.shadowbinding shoe wrote:It's pronounced like the end of rejoice! If you say it with ZZZZ it sounds like joys and that's belittling our beloved king Joyce.
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wayfriend wrote:But don't forget the "ee" at the end. That -e is there for a reason! You should pronounce his name like people from Jersey say "Jersey".Cord Hurn wrote:I think it's important to sound out King Joyse's name in one's head as "JOYZZZ"; that way you remember to spell it with an "s" instead of a "c".
Surely you jest. If I thought of the King's name as sounding that way, I'd start to annoy myself by imagining he's humming Springsteen and Bon Jovi songs while playing hop-board.
[Edits: I've teased wayfriend about this, but he could be right. "JOY-zee"...hmmm...so by this example his daughter Myste's name would be pronounced to rhyme with "feisty".]
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Cord Hurn wrote:The problem with your way of mentally pronouncing the King's name, Shadowbinding Shoe, is that it makes you regularly misspell it. (But hey, that's no crime, and I always know to whom you are referring! I very much appreciate all your terrific contributions to this forum; please know that!!!) It's not "Joyce" like a woman's name; it's Joyse.shadowbinding shoe wrote:It's pronounced like the end of rejoice! If you say it with ZZZZ it sounds like joys and that's belittling our beloved king Joyce.
And I want to reiterate, SS, that your valuable, well-thought-out insights are fantastic and are what really count. So, if you still want to spell the King's name as "Joyce", I'll just have to overlook it!
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No worries Cord Hurn.
I'm not a native English speaker and wasn't familiar with the femalish name 'Joyce' so it didn't bother me the way it did you.
Here's a name-meaning link: www.behindthename.com/name/joyce. Seems it's not strictly a female name and contain both the meaning rejoice and lord. The earlier male version was spelled Josse. I'm not sure how Medieval pronounciation makes it sound. Probably Germanic sounding.
I'm not a native English speaker and wasn't familiar with the femalish name 'Joyce' so it didn't bother me the way it did you.
Here's a name-meaning link: www.behindthename.com/name/joyce. Seems it's not strictly a female name and contain both the meaning rejoice and lord. The earlier male version was spelled Josse. I'm not sure how Medieval pronounciation makes it sound. Probably Germanic sounding.
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Wayfriend and I are of course referring to the US state of New Jersey, not the place in Great Britain known as Jersey (and I doubt that there they pronounce it as "JOYZ-ee")Cord Hurn wrote:wayfriend wrote:But don't forget the "ee" at the end. That -e is there for a reason! You should pronounce his name like people from Jersey say "Jersey".Cord Hurn wrote:I think it's important to sound out King Joyse's name in one's head as "JOYZZZ"; that way you remember to spell it with an "s" instead of a "c".
Surely you jest. If I thought of the King's name as sounding that way, I'd start to annoy myself by imagining he's humming Springsteen and Bon Jovi songs while playing hop-board.