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'One God' Tattoo

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:19 am
by drew
So I was out for a walk with a good friend of mine, in a pretty little Univeristy town not too long ago; and as we walked by a patio bar, she spotted a man with a tattoo on his shoulder, stating "One God".

We got into a disscussion over it; her being Pagan, me being an open minded Christian, and we came to the comclution, that the tattoo could be either very closed minded, or very open minded.

Was the owner of the tattoo wanting to tell the whole world, or at least whoever sees his shoulder, that there is only one God. One Choice for God. That there is only One TRUE God?
Was he Christian, Jewish or Muslim? Was he trying to say that only the God of Abraham exists, and there is no need to beleive in any other God, and if someone DID beleive in another God, they are wrong?

This belief is sharred by many. This belief has started wars...genocides. This belief has caused countless people to be killed, tortured, and eventually assimilated.
This belief is what gives organized religions a bad name. Its what makes people disslike organized religions.
It is an assumption, that causes people to fear and distrust many faithfull people.

Perhaps though...perhaps this fellow meant "One God" in a more profound way. Perhaps he meant that there is only One God, who wears many faces, and goes by different names.
Did he mean that he believes that that there is one God, who is...The God of Abraham, Ganesh, Zuess, the Earth Goddess. Perhpas he meant that this One God has had numerous manifestations that walked the Earth in various forms to teach various cultures its message in various ways?
People like Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Mohamud, Confusious, Krishna, Budha, the Goddess Bridgit, Mother Theresa, Ghandi, the Dali Lama, and Wayne Dyer (that last one was a joke!!)

This is more akin to what I myself believe.
Though, I tend persoanlly to enjoy the teachings of a Christian Church, I have no problems with the teachings of an Islamic Mosque, or a Bhudist Temple, or someone who makes offereings to a diety in accordnace with the placement of the moon or stars.

So, if someone says that there is only One God, are they saying, that anyone who doesn't believe in the same God the he/she believes in is wrong?
Or are they saying that there is only One God, and everyone is right.
No matter what God you believe in, you are right.
Whether it is a God of a major religion...an alternative religion, your own personal belief. Or even if you beleive in NO gods What-so-ever...that it was merely science, and a cosmic accident that caused the Universe and all its life.
We are ALL right.

Wouldn't it be fantastic if everyone believed this?
Wouldn't it be an incredible world to live in, where no matter what you believed, or what you DIDN'T beleive, you were right, in everyone's eyes?

There was NO wrong God?
ALL Gods, and ALL beliefs were correct, becuase, in some peoples eyes, there is only One God...and most of us STILL haven't got a clue who or what this One God is!!

Re: 'One God' Tattoo

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:54 am
by Menolly
drew wrote:...Or are they saying that there is only One God, and everyone is right.
No matter what God you believe in, you are right.
Whether it is a God of a major religion...an alternative religion, your own personal belief. Or even if you beleive in NO gods What-so-ever...that it was merely science, and a cosmic accident that caused the Universe and all its life.
We are ALL right.

Wouldn't it be fantastic if everyone believed this?
Wouldn't it be an incredible world to live in, where no matter what you believed, or what you DIDN'T beleive, you were right, in everyone's eyes?

There was NO wrong God?
ALL Gods, and ALL beliefs were correct, becuase, in some peoples eyes, there is only One God...and most of us STILL haven't got a clue who or what this One God is!!
Yep. :thumbsup:

Behind the mask of every religion.
Is the one True face of G-d.


S/he disguises him/herself so that s/he may be adapted to mankind's individual interpretation to what s/he is.

Personally, I think it is even more personal than that.
But I go in to that enough on my Facebook via the G-d wants You to Know application and here in The Close in the Kabbalah Thoughts thread...

...hmm. Time for a signature change again, I think.

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:55 am
by aliantha
I don't see anything in your post to disagree with, drew. :)

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:27 am
by lucimay
didn't that jehovah guy pretty much answer the question?

"thou shalt have no other gods before me"

not "there are no other gods"

heh. ;)

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:33 am
by Avatar
A quote I've always loved is:
The technicalities of religion have no place in the minds of God.
--A

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:55 am
by StevieG
Awesome quote Avatar!

I've always loved Cail's post - here's a snippet:
"We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of Heaven and earth, and of all things seen and unseen."

One God, period. One God who (being God) can manifest himself in many ways to many people. The God who made Heaven and earth has revealed himself to me as the God of the Catholic Church. To someone else, he's the Presbyterian God, to another he's Allah, and so on. No mortal can claim the knowledge of God, so who the Hell are we to say which faith is the "only" one and the rest are wrong?

One God, different ways of getting to Him.

Point is that anyone can achieve salvation. There is no single path.

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:03 pm
by drew
Unfortunatly; when most people say that there is only one God...I'm afraid their mind is in the opposite direction. That there is only one CHOICE for God.
And that is sad.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:53 pm
by Vraith
Nifty little discussion, though I'm gonna make a stereotype joke: you can tell which the tatooed person meant by whether long hair or short, and if long, whether wearing a cowboy hat or not.

And one quibble [or perhaps just point of discussion]: Though there have been splits/changes, Buddhism is only sort of a religion, especially in the general western understanding. And Buddha is definitely not God...or even a god.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:27 pm
by drew
The Budha was a hindu, wasn't he?

I didn't lump him in with the Gods in my post anyways... he was in with people like Mohammud and Mother Theresa. A messanger (in my beleif) sent from whatever the One God really is.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:35 pm
by wayfriend
Avatar wrote:A quote I've always loved is:
The technicalities of religion have no place in the minds of God.
The quote that comes to mind for me is:
(In Hell, on Judgement Day) "I'm sorry; I'm afraid you were wrong... You chose the wrong religion."

"Well, what was the correct religion?"

"I'm afraid it was 'the Mormons'. Yes, 'the Mormons' was the correct answer."

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:39 pm
by Vraith
wayfriend wrote:
Avatar wrote:A quote I've always loved is:
The technicalities of religion have no place in the minds of God.
The quote that comes to mind for me is:
(In Hell, on Judgement Day) "I'm sorry; I'm afraid you were wrong... You chose the wrong religion."

"Well, what was the correct religion?"

"I'm afraid it was 'the Mormons'. Yes, 'the Mormons' was the correct answer."
heh, there must be a million variations on this, cuz the one I heard was "Christians, Christians, all line up over here please. Thank you, thank you, I'm sorry, not the Messiah, not forgiven, the Jews were right."

And I misread, Drew, you didn't say B. was a god. Mea culpa.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:59 pm
by wayfriend

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:59 am
by Vraith
ONE! [white top hat up down]
singular sensation, [sidepose, right leg cocked heel up toe down, butt out, back arched]
every little step she takes. [slink cross steps, downstage, shoulders square, hips swivel.]
ONE! [white top hat up down]

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:19 am
by Avatar
wayfriend wrote:
(In Hell, on Judgement Day) "I'm sorry; I'm afraid you were wrong... You chose the wrong religion."

"Well, what was the correct religion?"

"I'm afraid it was 'the Mormons'. Yes, 'the Mormons' was the correct answer."
Rowan Atkinson?

--A

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:05 pm
by wayfriend
Avatar wrote:
wayfriend wrote:
(In Hell, on Judgement Day) "I'm sorry; I'm afraid you were wrong... You chose the wrong religion."

"Well, what was the correct religion?"

"I'm afraid it was 'the Mormons'. Yes, 'the Mormons' was the correct answer."
Rowan Atkinson?
South Park. :)

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:27 am
by Avatar
Rowan Atkinson did a skit where he was the devil, welcoming the non-believers into hell. Pretty sure he chose Mormons as the right guys too. Was pretty damn funny. :D

--A

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:51 am
by Krazy Kat
One God...mmm...perhaps - but as far as I know there isn't a One World church. This to me has always been the failure of any religion, denomination, any church.

Maybe your pagan friend really tips the balance in favor of a One World Church, that is, if you were to consider it to be, Stonehenge, or those crazy heads on Easter Island, and so on and so forth...

I believe in God. I tend to believe in the existence of the One True God. Because, I'm just too damn lazy to believe in a One True Union of God.

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:54 pm
by aliantha
Krazy Kat wrote:I believe in God. I tend to believe in the existence of the One True God. Because, I'm just too damn lazy to believe in a One True Union of God.
:lol: Honesty -- I like that in a person. :lol: