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Horrim Carabal wrote:I love Erikson, with a few caveats.

1) He can get too cutesy.

2) He's in love with some of his characters and it shows, in a decidedly Eddings-like way. That's not a good thing in my book.

3) He throws the reader to the wolves, and dares you to keep treading water until you can figure out what the heck is going on sometimes.

4) A little too much comic relief at times.

But I love the Malazan books, which I most likely would never have read except for SRD's recommendation.

I loved the beginning of Toll The Hounds...the prologue that ends with "and witness!" Great writing.
I think he needs to get cutesy and have tons of comic relief for what he portrays, otherwise his readers might get too depressed to go on (not me, but I'm not all readers...yet). I've never read any Eddings, so I don't know about that... he seems to like crazy characters though like Kruppe and that Shadow Priest guy w/ his D'ivers wife.
And being thrown to the wolves is one of the things I like most about this series :D
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Orlion wrote:I think he needs to get cutesy and have tons of comic relief for what he portrays, otherwise his readers might get too depressed to go on (not me, but I'm not all readers...yet). I've never read any Eddings, so I don't know about that... he seems to like crazy characters though like Kruppe and that Shadow Priest guy w/ his D'ivers wife.
And being thrown to the wolves is one of the things I like most about this series :D
In the Belgariad and Malloreon, Eddings basically created a huge cast of characters that he loved so much that none of them ever died, or even lost a fight. One of Eddings' many shortcomings...
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Orlion wrote:I think he needs to get cutesy and have tons of comic relief for what he portrays, otherwise his readers might get too depressed to go on (not me, but I'm not all readers...yet). I've never read any Eddings, so I don't know about that... he seems to like crazy characters though like Kruppe and that Shadow Priest guy w/ his D'ivers wife.
And being thrown to the wolves is one of the things I like most about this series :D
In the Belgariad and Malloreon, Eddings basically created a huge cast of characters that he loved so much that none of them ever died, or even lost a fight. One of Eddings' many shortcomings...
Well, I don't think that's the case with Erikson... not entirely, anyway. Besides, it's nice to keep a huge cast of characters at the end so they can all fall in a fiery apocalyptic battle that shapes worlds! :D
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Orlion wrote:Just needed to say: the prologue of MT was amazing :D
The rest of the book is probably one of my 2 least favourite though.

--A
The other is GotM, right? I think you're mad :biggrin: The Crippled God has just gained another servant (I love those CG scenes, and savor each one that comes up... makes me want to hurry up so I can get to the book bearing his name as soon as possible :D ).

Really, thus far loving the entire series. The end of HoC elicited a WTF reaction out of me, but I'm over it now ;)
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Nope, the other one is Reapers Gale. :D I liked GotM a lot, once I'd read enough other books to know what was going on. :lol:

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Re DG: Not looking again, just trying to, sort of, piggyback on Orilon's thread. I've been enjoying the book, am invested in the story, but it didn't strike me as all that much until around page 610-620 uh WOW! If I've been halfway asleep through this book up till now I'm certainly beginning to wake up! 8O
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Hahaha, wait til you hit MOI. :D

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Avatar wrote:Hahaha, wait til you hit MOI. :D

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Holy crap, that was an excellent book... probably my favorite thus far.

Essentially, if you don't love the series after MoI, something's wrong with you :P
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Avatar wrote:Nope, the other one is Reapers Gale. :D I liked GotM a lot, once I'd read enough other books to know what was going on. :lol:
danlo wrote:Re DG: Not looking again, just trying to, sort of, piggyback on Orilon's thread. I've been enjoying the book, am invested in the story, but it didn't strike me as all that much until around page 610-620 uh WOW! If I've been halfway asleep through this book up till now I'm certainly beginning to wake up! 8O
8O 8O I don't know what to say to either of you!! DG is certainly better than RG. But RG is great, and DG is phenomenal all the way through!

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It's the whole Edur story-line...in multiple re-reads, it's just gotten on my nerves. I consider those books just barely rescued by the Tehol/Bugg story-line.

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I don't think I could make it through the Sengar family's degradation more than a couple of times. But Tehol and Bugg are a constant joy to me. :mrgreen: I sure hope they show up in the last book.
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All right, finished MT and am moving on to BH. I hear this is where things start connecting! MT was a sort of difficult read because of all the editorial mistakes in my book, damn publishers! Other than that, I enjoyed it.

BTW, was *ahem* Bugg's scream heard in any of the previous books?
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Soooo....
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Cutter just got owned by a T'lann I'mass
Sheesh, what a wuss ;) Really enjoying this book thus far, wish that 'Adjunct' was capitalized like it's suppose to be, but what am I going to do? Write a nasty letter to Tor publishing, of course! :twisted:
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I don't think Bugg's scream, but we see the result of his anger in MoI or HoC. I don't remember which, but I'm exactly halfway through MoI right now, so I'll know soon. heh

I don't remember that from BH. Been too long. I'll get there eventually. :lol:
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MoI, they don't hear the scream but they find the body of the Tiste Edur. ;)
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That's where I thought it happened, but couldn't be sure at this point.
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Haha, I think that's the time I noticed that MT was actually running concurrent with MoI.

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Well, I just finished the part in BH where Paran goes after Poliel... friggin awesome. But Apsalar needs to pull herself together, dammit!
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Finished Bonehunters! Good book, I particularly like the part when
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the Jade Giants came crashing down... that was awesome! I don't know why people don't mention it more?

The fate of Kalam remains "uncertain", but what's important is Apsalar is still alive! Hoo-ray! I love Apsalar! She can stick me with those knives any time she wants! (Everyone reading this: :? ) You heard me! :P
Icarium at the end...definitely did not disappoint!

Now, on to Avatar's favorite volume ;)
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:LOLS:

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