Kevin's Watch

What are they?

The old forest, in the house of Tom Bombadil.

In the Mines of Moria

Battle with the Balrog AND .............
The introduction of Aragorn to the story

Definitely The Mines of Moria! One of the most exciting things ever written! And in the movie! Moria is my favorite sequence in the movies, followed by Helm's Deep.

I liked it when Frodo finds out that Sam, Pippin, and Merry have all conspired against him, and all know about the ring.

The Mines of Moria. The Bridge of Kazud-Dum scene with the balrog was killer. Now, did the balrog have wings or not ?? Just kidding, no need to get that started.

Now, did the balrog have wings or not ??

LOL agreed:)

My favorite part was The Council of Elrond. It serves very well from an information standpoint.

Council of Elrond for me too...in fact it's probebly my favorite chapter in the whole series.

I personally like Lothlorien... I didn't used to a whole lot, but I do now.

I also like the escape from Crickhollow... and the wraiths... for some reason I like the wraiths. I don't know why, I mean, they're so creepy and all, but, I like the scenes with them in it.

Of course I love "At the Sign of the Prancing Pony." Aragorn's my favorite... so... I have to.

Moria is great too.

Aw heck, I love the whole book.

it has to be Moria. "drums in the deep!"

and Boromirs death. the book made it seem so heroic and for the first time you could really empathise with him. he was a great man torn between the love for his country and the power of the ring.

'Farewell, Aragorn! Go to Minas Tirith and save my people! I have failed.'
'No!' said Aragorn, taking his hand and kissing his brow. 'You have conquered. Few have gained such a victory. Be at peace! Minas Tirith shall not fall!'

great stuff!

just a pity the films screwed up the whole death scene.

Tazzman wrote:it has to be Moria. "drums in the deep!"

and Boromirs death. the book made it seem so heroic and for the first time you could really empathise with him. he was a great man torn between the love for his country and the power of the ring.

'Farewell, Aragorn! Go to Minas Tirith and save my people! I have failed.'
'No!' said Aragorn, taking his hand and kissing his brow. 'You have conquered. Few have gained such a victory. Be at peace! Minas Tirith shall not fall!'

great stuff!

just a pity the films screwed up the whole death scene.

aGREED! boromir and faromir were the issues I had with the films...just wrong wrong wrong.
i've been reading those books for 30 years now and that scene ALWAYS gets me, boromirs death and the "burial".

Lucimay wrote:

Tazzman wrote:just a pity the films screwed up the whole death scene.

aGREED! boromir and faromir were the issues I had with the films...just wrong wrong wrong.

Pah! Borimir's end was done well. Faramir's changes were tolerable and moreso understandable - what reeked was disasterous scripting of the way Faramir was turned around. I could write pages and pages. Suffice it to say, Jackson's Frodo/Aragorn/Borimir triangle was what made FOTR rather deep and compelling. In this regar

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Okay, I'll get back on topic.

Over the years, my favorite parts have changed. The first time I read FOTR, when I was maybe 13, my favorite parts were the black riders chasing the hobbits across the Shire, and then to Rivendell. Later, it was Moria. Later, it was the Council. Now, I'd have to say, I've lost the ability to have a favorite part - I look at things too wholishly.

Wayfriend wrote:Pah! Borimir's end was done well. Faramir's changes were tolerable and moreso understandable - what reeked was disasterous scripting of the way Faramir was turned around. I could write pages and pages. Suffice it to say, Jackson's Frodo/Aragorn/Borimir triangle was what made FOTR rather deep and compelling.

Pah back! was not was not was not.

well...the death scene was fine...but i just didn't like the treatment of boromir's character...no whether we can attribute that to Jackson, the scriptwriter, or Sean Bean...i'll not hazard a guess. just that i didn't think it was the Boromir i knew. no pig squeal...i could have lived with it...but they completely POOPED on Faromir's character. that sh*t never happened!!! they made it up!!! poop. and it DIDN'T serve the story, i could have forgiven if it had.

and of course, the usual disclaimer...feel free to disagree...this is only my opinion, not carved in granite

Lucimay wrote:well...the death scene was fine...but i just didn't like the treatment of boromir's character...

I do not know to what you refer. I'm up on most common complaints against the movie. Like I said, I thought that he was given one of the pivotal roles of the first film.

Lucimay wrote:but they completely POOPED on Faromir's character. that sh*t never happened!!! they made it up!!! poop. and it DIDN'T serve the story, i could have forgiven if it had.

Actually, Faramir's changes did serve the story. Book-Faramir was unmoved by the Ring. In the movie, that would be absolute badness, because it would derail the build-up of how bad and how addictive the Ring is. There's not enough time in a movie to explain why the Ring affects this guy but not that guy; you gotta pick one and stick to it. (Remember, even Gandalf was scared s-less of the Ring.)

You could argue that everyone who read the book would understand, but that was only maybe 10% of the audience.

No, where the movie went into stupidville was, having positioned Faramir as opposed to Frodo thusly, they had to find a way to get out of it somehow, before Frodo ended up in Minas Tirith. So we get the whole thing with Frodo and the Ringwraith in Osgiliath. Now, that was bad!

Wayfriend wrote:Actually, Faramir's changes did serve the story.

didn't

Lucimay wrote:

Wayfriend wrote:Actually, Faramir's changes did serve the story.

didn't

I'd have to agree with Wayfriend here, also i belive the reason for Frodo going to Osgiliath was because of the delaying of him meeting Shelob. ( ie. moved fomr the TT to RotK )

Also i liked Boromir's death scene.

i don't care who agrees with him and who disagrees with me. my opinion is mine and nothing anyone has said thus far has changed it.
tho if you're intent on doing so...have at it.

Lucimay wrote: and of course, the usual disclaimer...feel free to disagree...this is only my opinion, not carved in granite

All 3 movies, except for a few select scenes, sucked ass.

The Fellowship is a wonderful book.
Like Wayfriend, my favorite parts have changed over the years and after many rereads.

It's easier to say what parts I didn't like.
And even then only the chapters after Gandalf fell are boring to me.

The Council of Elrond is still my favorite chapter though.

my problem wih borimir's death isn't with Borimir per se, its just the fact that i got the impression that Aragorn couldn't give a flying sh*t! in the book there is some hostility between the pair at first but that subsides. in the film it doesn't.