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Which basic model for the afterlife would you prefer?

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:13 pm
by [Syl]
I've kind of boiled down the Trial entries to the framework that supports them. You will use the one chosen to tell your particular place in it.

A. Cedar: Forges produce and recycle slow light (mortals)

B. Nyx: Every life has mirrors or echoes in Root or Crown that gods can manage how they like

C. Orlando: Souls, in a kind of raw form, travel a metaphorical river (and I assume they return to it when they die). The gods pull (or direct?) the souls from the river.

D. Nakoma: Death is the result and final face of change. After death, souls join their god in the 'ether' where there is no change.

E. Serenity: Everything comes from the Supreme Forces That Were One Mind, goes through various transformations, and returns to it in the end.

F. Shen: Making up for his mistake in allowing Death (:mrgreen:), the Autarch allowed mortals to choose their own fates after death while alive.

Some of these are fairly similar, and some might be hard to employ for the next phase. Depending on how the vote goes, I might combine bits and pieces before starting the final stage of this trial.

Only players may vote, and they may only vote once. After you have voted, please state in this thread which option you went with along with any comments you may have (they do not have to be in character, obviously). When all votes are in (or if one option cannot be defeated), I will announce the result and the final stage will start.

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:06 pm
by Fist and Faith
That's Shen's such a clever guy, I just had to go with him! :D The idea is, the mortals choose from among the choices the gods offer. What happens to the soul of someone who worshiped Shen? What happens to the soul of someone who worshiped Nakoma? Etc. And what happens to the soul of someone who worhiped nobody? Interesting question! :D

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:09 am
by Menolly
<shrug>

I am getting the feeling the Autarch may be casting a tie-breaker. Serenity's entry is an Acropolis version of my own personal belief. How else would I vote?

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:47 pm
by Nyx
I voted for myself. I already have some ideas for my own paradigm, so it was an easy choice.

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:36 pm
by Katrina
Um, I just realized I voted earlier on here. This is cause for a PSA:

Don't Drink and Watch.

Sorry, and thank you.

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:40 pm
by Fist and Faith
Menolly wrote:<shrug>

I am getting the feeling the Autarch may be casting a tie-breaker. Serenity's entry is an Acropolis version of my own personal belief. How else would I vote?
I sure didn't vote a version of my own personal belief. :lol:

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:09 am
by Menolly
Understood, Fist.

I'm just saying if players only vote, who wouldn't vote for their own entry? Then, I gave my reasoning for voting for my own.

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:57 am
by balon!
I voted Orlando. I think the river, with this version of Acropolis, is the best. It's got lots of potential for us all to fit in but remain constrained, at the same time.

Does Ristra have a vote?
Katrina wrote: Don't Drink and Watch.
:lol: Been there...

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:26 pm
by Orlando
Thanks, Balon. I liked the story, too.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:57 pm
by [Syl]
Well, I was hoping the voting process would be a little more dynamic, but this works just as well. What I'm going to do is combine pieces from all entries to form the basis for the afterlife in Acropolis and have a final version up sometime tonight.

Essentially, you're all right. The Supreme Forces accepted the necessity of change, resulting in a river of souls streaming through the aether of the universe, swirling and condensing around the forge of the Tree which in turn separates each (mortal) soul into different aspects and reroutes them to their according planes, whereupon the central/mortal forms decide in their lifetimes how they want the essence of their beings reunified in the afterlife.

Now, the next and final phase of this Trial is going to be a bit more in depth, combining what I had planned for the next trial with this one (thanks in part to Goat's entry, as well as the already planned relationship between the two). Each of you needs to choose where in either Crown or Root your physical Sanctuary (home/residence/manse/demesne/etc.) is, describe this Sanctuary, and explain how you manage these souls. I'd suggest keeping in mind that your holy place shares a very strong relationship with your Sanctuary.

You can tell the story in the first person from the viewpoint of one of your follower's journey in the afterlife or in the third person of just describing it. Go big (the laws of physics don't really apply that well in Root or Crown), but be careful of trying to do anything that would take DSP.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:30 pm
by Menolly
And this is sent to you privately, similar to a turn submission, nu? With deadline for the next turn coming up, how long do we have to get this done?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:43 pm
by [Syl]
I'd prefer publicly in the Trials thread, with any details you think should be private sent to me by PM.

The deadline can be pushed back. Is midnight of the 7th OK with everyone?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:57 pm
by Menolly
The Autarch wrote:I'd prefer publicly in the Trials thread,
Oy.

Not exactly sure how to publicly incorporate Serenity's appearance in Crown, which definitely has an impact on what I see happening in the after life for mortals. Will think on this.
The Autarch wrote:The deadline can be pushed back. Is midnight of the 7th OK with everyone?
I have "family" obligations the extended 4th of July weekend, but I should be able to work on my submission between now and then, I hope.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:32 am
by Avatar
[Syl] wrote:
The deadline can be pushed back. Is midnight of the 7th OK with everyone?
Is that for the trial or the turn or both?

--A

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:29 am
by [Syl]
The trial. Turn deadline isn't until Aug 1.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:08 pm
by [Syl]
From a PM to another player:
The Autarch wrote:You could look at the two realms like Heaven and Hell or Olympus and Hades and do just fine. Alternately, they could be The Land and Narnia. Which is up and which is down doesn't really matter (there could be blue sky in Root or mountains in Crown for all I care). I'm not really dictating what they are (though in his entry, Goat does hit on the bare essence of flavor I have tried to give them), hoping players will choose to define them instead. My purpose is to merely keep a stable playing ground, while allowing plenty of room for imagination, manueverability, and so on in the other two realms. They're connected, in that things can travel between or otherwise have effects upon the other realms, but that's it.

If you're looking for a place to set your Sanctuary, I'd suggest just thinking about which would make you more comfortable and going from there. The only things to consider are that things in Root exist more along the lines of the meaning behind things, while things in Crown are more like idealized extracts. The difference between those two states is ambiguous and more a matter of art than science. Choosing one or the other really only matters as much as you think it matters.

As for the connection to your holy place, if I was using Covenant as a model, Haven Farm would be the holy place and Kevin's Watch would be the Sanctuary... though it could just as easily be Revelstone, Foul's Creche, or whatever. Two sides to one bridge.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:12 pm
by [Syl]
Oh, and if anyone really wants to know what I think when I imagine Crown and Root, read Gene Wolfe's The Wizard-Knight duology.

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:41 am
by Avatar
[Syl] wrote:The trial. Turn deadline isn't until Aug 1.
Hahaha, ok cool. I missed that. Thought it was July 1st for some reason.

--A

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:27 pm
by Nakoma
Trial in. :D

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:18 am
by cedar
it wasn't specified in the story, but my Sanctuary, the First Cedar, is in the Crown.