Kevin's Watch

One of my main objections to a showdown with the Despiser at the end of The Last Dark (or wherever) is that I don't think he has a body at this time. I don't know what happened after the Ritual of Desecration, but if it only took him 1000 years to regenerate himself after that, he must've still had something to work with. But his losses at the end of TPTP were only recuperated due to the Sunbane, it seems to me. Having expended his physical essence at the hands of a white gold ring, and having no corrupted Earthpower to replenish himself with, how's he gonna assume a body again to fight and be fought with?

Or is it gonna be like how the Dark One fights Rand in A Memory of Light, on some transcendent plane where no actual "battle" does take place?

It should play out similarly to Hactar's tale

I think it's an open question as to whether Foul has a body during the Last Chronicles.

In [i]White Gold Weilder[/i] was wrote:But each assault hit nothing except the specter, hurt nothing except Covenant. Blast after blast, he absorbed the power of Despite and fire and became stronger. [...] In accelerating frenzy, he flung rage and defiance and immitigable hate at Covenant. Yet each failed blow cost him more of himself. His substance frayed and thinned, denatured moment by moment, as his attacks grew more reckless and extravagant. Soon he had reduced himself to such evanescence that he was barely visible.

If you follow that, you can see where Foul went. Who's to say he ever left that abode?

At the end of the First Cron, it was only after TC beat him with the Stone that he went from a spirit form to a physical one of an old man and then the laughter faded that for away.

Which....i never really liked how that went.

Hashi Lebwohl wrote:He probably has Lore sufficient to possess someone in the manner of a Raver, should he desire a physical body.

If I'm not mistaken, LF did try to possess TC by the end of TPTP.

And I agree that it doesn't really matter currently - he acts through proxies anyway, now that matters.

Maybe Kastenessen allowed himself to be possessed by a Raver at some point, or maybe a Raver will possess the skurj like it has the kresh and, in a way, the Sandgorgons. (Really, killing Sandgorgons is not necessary even if they have done evil now. When ever has Covenant demanded death for an entire species? More likely, they will be redeemed somehow in the end.)

Lord Foul's physical form:

Or is it...?

This thread is making me wonder whether Foul is stronger with a physical form or without one...

Wayfriend: Is that image from "Amazing Stories?" From that ghost train episode?

I thought it was the guy from Home Alone.

Ah, you're probably right, Murrin.

It's the guy from Home Alone.

I don't think Foul is stronger with a physical form, so much as, when he is stronger he chooses a physical form. Certainly, it's strategic: it was surely useful when infiltrating the Council of Lords and leading armies of mutants and stuff like that.

Wayfriend makes a good point.

It disturbs me that LF has not made an appearance yet. All we have are a couple of instances we hear his "speech". In fact, I remember one such time was heard inside Covenant's head while slipping through mind-fissures. Curious.

It's written Linden brought TC back "fully intact". Leprosy and... all?

Krilly wrote:It's written Linden brought TC back "fully intact". Leprosy and... all?

Definitely. In fact, he said in AATE that his leprosy is critical to his being able to do what he has to do...in the cogent moments when he remembers what that is.

Krilly wrote: It disturbs me that LF has not made an appearance yet. All we have are a couple of instances we hear his "speech". In fact, I remember one such time was heard inside Covenant's head while slipping through mind-fissures. Curious.

We didn't see him very much in the 1st or 2nd Chronicles either. I'd go so far as to say we've actually heard MORE from him this time, especially at the beginning in ROTE, than ever before.