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Forestal wrote:I, personally, think that the rape scene could be done in such a way that shows Covenant's "temporary insanity". It would be easier to stomach if there were a flash-foward of a Raver before hand - although that would mess with the timeline, but it would ease the shock of it.

Certainly there have been films made with Fouler protagonists, that I believe a Covenant movie or series would be possible, it just requires a director who understands how to portray mental illness in a suitable fashion - of which there are a few, and Covenant is definitely in the realms of mental illness for that short period.

Mega Fauna Blitzkrieg wrote:I've had a fantasy of making this series into a series, tv or movie, for years and years. Either by becoming a director or a billionaire who can order improbable things done and have it happen...

But, does anyone else think that these would be ridiculously hard to faithfully adapt? Even if the plot content is true, the impact couldn't possibly be? So much of the series is internal, and emotional, psychological...

There would have to be like, an over-running narration to represent the characters thoughts over the whole series, and even then, how could they represent some of the more beautiful things? Like a person who has health sense and can see health, beauty, and emotion?

Not to mention the emotion the characters almost always have on their faces, even to regular vision.

I really don't want to offend anyone, or derail this into a debate about actors, so I will just say, most actors you ever hear about, don't really 'act'. I think the best actors are the type-cast ones, who do something so well they are stuck in it forever, and even if they attempt to, they rarely are allowed to breech that prison.

Plus all the needed special effects...I really think the reason Game of Thrones got adapted for the screen is that for fantasy, the magical/non human aspects of it are so low. And it was just easier to adapt, sort of the exact opposite of this series?

Doug0915 wrote:

Mega Fauna Blitzkrieg wrote:I've had a fantasy of making this series into a series, tv or movie, for years and years. Either by becoming a director or a billionaire who can order improbable things done and have it happen...

But, does anyone else think that these would be ridiculously hard to faithfully adapt? Even if the plot content is true, the impact couldn't possibly be? So much of the series is internal, and emotional, psychological...

There would have to be like, an over-running narration to represent the characters thoughts over the whole series, and even then, how could they represent some of the more beautiful things? Like a person who has health sense and can see health, beauty, and emotion?

Not to mention the emotion the characters almost always have on their faces, even to regular vision.

I really don't want to offend anyone, or derail this into a debate about actors, so I will just say, most actors you ever hear about, don't really 'act'. I think the best actors are the type-cast ones, who do something so well they are stuck in it forever, and even if they attempt to, they rarely are allowed to breech that prison.

Plus all the needed special effects...I really think the reason Game of Thrones got adapted for the screen is that for fantasy, the magical/non human aspects of it are so low. And it was just easier to adapt, sort of the exact opposite of this series?

One thing that occurred to me while reading the books. There is a SIGNIFICANT amount of horror if you tried to make them into a movie. Sure, LOTR had some of that but some of the things in the First and Second Chronicles are downright gruesome.

If you cut the Horror out to make a mini-series or movie it just wouldn't be the same.

Ur Dead wrote:With the making of Band of Brothers.. The Pacific and of course
Game of Thrones a set of mini-series could bring all
the books to the small screen...

HBO anybody??

Nanothnir wrote:Maybe SRD doesn't want everyone to know about the darker stuff in his other works? The Real Story has a lot of disturbing rape and beating scenes...about half of the novella. Nowadays, that would generate a royal shitstorm and possibly ruin his career if certain people made enough of an outrage over some of his books for it to go viral.

Then again, SRD kind of seems like an asshole from how people have described him. Not that that colors my opinion of his books, though.

StephenRDonaldson.com News wrote:I would like to emphasize that I have no control over any aspect of this process. After all, the film rights are held by Ballantine Books, not by me. I've met Winther and Orloff, and I'm convinced that their respect for and excitement about "Covenant" is genuine: for that reason, I'm starting to get excited myself. And I have no doubt that Revelstone Development will consult with me from time to time, and will take whatever I have to say seriously. But I have no actual power here. Nor do I want any. In fact, I've refused every offer to give me any power. I love movies; I hope a "Covenant" movie (or several) will be made; I hope it will be good; and I hope it will be successful. But I'm simply not qualified, either by experience or by personality, to make the kinds of decisions--and compromises--which are essential to film-making. And I have my own work to do, work which pretty much consumes all of my creative energy. So I'm rooting hard for Revelstone Development; and if Gordon, Winther, and Orloff ever want my opinion, I'll give it to them. But really this is all out of my hands.

Forestal wrote:Everyone has bad days... and I think that anyone who's made something artistic can share the balking at the idea of someone twisting and torturing it to change it into another medium that it was never designed for.

(I still want to see it done, though.)