Kevin's Watch

Question mark.

I mean the way time flows between our earth and theirs, I am not sure exactly how old Covenant is in book 1 but, assuming the relationship between worlds didn't change, the land's earth would have to have been created at Covenant's birth or in his youth?

Or maybe the relationship between them isn't that transparent? Maybe the worlds weren't connected until they WERE connected, maybe time flowed normally comparitively between them until the first time an out-worlder was summoned, from then on the arch of time was synched up to TC in some weird way?

Or maybe the summons to the land happen when they happen regardless, and Covenant is pulled forward or backwards through time to be summoned to the time he is summoned to regardless, and there is no direct correlation between our time and theirs?

If you follow the in series flow of time, as it is presented by the puny mortal minds of Linden and Covenant, their world and sun and life will flare and burn out before Linden hits her 80s, I mean if she didn't already get shot to death in her 30s.

This all kind of seems like a quagmire to me, I can't really come to any conclusions without answering other questions first, like about the creator, is he the creator for the whole universe as the giants say, including our earth, or just for that earth? Foul and the Bane certainly seem to be immortal in every way, and transcendent? But maybe the avatar of the creator, that beggar, is just a human more or less, with a more sophisticated version of Jeremiah's powers? To make constructs to anywhere and anything, etc?

If that is the case, maybe he didn't appear to warn Linden in book 7 because he is actually physically dead of old age? =p

I mean, I long ago stopped questioning it, but as far as I remember there hasn't been a definitive answer as to wether the land is real or a dream/delusion of wounded or dying minds. It is still kind of a take your pick/faith thing, isn't it?

Whoops, I wanted to add, I am re-reading book 1 now...and the part in the beginning where TC is talking to the Creator/Beggar is so cheeky, although you don't know it at the time.

Covenant says to him something like 'we didn't create the world, we just have to live in it' and the beggar very cheekily replies 'did we not?'.

The proportion is pretty simple - a year passes in the Land for every day of our time.

Thus, the gap between TPTP and TWL is about 4000 years on the land, and between 10-11 years (4000 days) here.

I know those are the figures they present in the books, but don't people question that?

I mean if he sticks with those, then the probability of this being a mass delusion is a lot higher, considering that Berek's life probably coincides with Covenant's surgery that took his fingers?

The grand age of the one forest was a 3 day weekend when he was getting serious wooing Joan?

There is no way that their planet can keep up it's existence if the time flows on fast-forward like that.

It's not like time isn't relative in our own universe. Simply think of our (Covenant's) world as near a black hole of non-fantasy and the Land's world in normal space. While in the Land's world time flows naturally, in Covenant's world time nearly stands still relative to the Land's

I admit I am not big on time space nerdicologies, so all the things here make sense, but then it doesn't change the fact that their earth will be a burned out lifeless husk long before ours?

Like a wonderful artist who lives courageously and beautifully, experiencing everything but dies at 20, compared to some old coot who lives to 105 with just liquor and hate to sustain him?

Mega Fauna Blitzkrieg wrote:I admit I am not big on time space nerdicologies, so all the things here make sense, but then it doesn't change the fact that their earth will be a burned out lifeless husk long before ours?

Like a wonderful artist who lives courageously and beautifully, experiencing everything but dies at 20, compared to some old coot who lives to 105 with just liquor and hate to sustain him?

Heh...you could look at it that way.
Cuz it's relative, after all.
But you could flip it over.

[Mhoram Jr. to his pop]:
I just don't GET IT Dad. Why do you like them? Why do they matter?
Been watching them since I was FIVE. Got my Pretty Rany, graduated Lord School, and listened to Thelma Twofist all the way through TWICE...and Tommy hasn't even finished his walk!
They're BORING, they never get anything DONE!

After reading the Chronicles, I would presume that it's 350 years to every year in Covenants world. (based on the info within the 2nd & 3rd Chronicles)

The 1st Chronicles TC was most probably in his early to mid 20's.
There are hints in the 3rd chronicles that certain events occured before TC was born. (25 x 350 = 8750 years) Those events had to occur 5750 years before Berek.
I see no possible way those events takin place in just 6 thousand years.

Mega Fauna Blitzkrieg wrote:some old coot who lives to 105 with just liquor and hate to sustain him?

Just out of curiosity, you don't know me in our offline lives, do you?