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Reversible Memories

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:22 pm
by Hashi Lebwohl
The article is from AJA but I'll try to track it down via Nature or other scholarly journal when I can.

Erasing the anguish associated with a breakup or a traumatic event may soon no longer be confined to the realm of science fiction, or the central idea of the film “Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind,” following an apparent breakthrough by scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

Neuroscientists at MIT have honed in on the pathway of brain cells that appear to control the way our memories become linked to emotions — and have been able to “reverse” the emotion in mice linked to a specific memory, turning bad memories into good and vice versa. They published the results of their study in the journal Nature on Wednesday.

By targeting specific brain cells located in the hippocampus — the center of the brain that deals with the formation of memories — the scientists were able to “turn on” those positive and negative emotions. They did this by using a technique called optogenetics, which uses a light-sensitive protein to track specific brain cells, allowing them to be switched on and off when pulsed with light.

Their experiment was done in mice, but the researchers say this circuit of brain cells could perhaps be a target for drugs that would treat post-traumatic stress disorder. In cognitive-behavioral therapy, the hope is that the fear and trauma associated with the memories of a painful event will gradually lessen the more a person talks about them. But isolating the area of the brain where the emotions are actually encoded with memory could greatly inform further research.

"Recalling a memory is not like playing a tape recorder," said Susumu Tonegawa, an MIT neuroscientist and a lead author of the study. "It's a creative process."

Tonegawa won the Nobel Prize for physiology or medicine in 1987 for his research on the immune system and antibodies. But in recent years, he has delved into the neuronal circuitry tied to learning and memory.

In 2003, he was able to isolate and alter the gene that regulates spatial memory in mice, causing confusion in laboratory mice that had ordinarily been able to learn how to run through complicated mazes. And last year he and a team of neuroscientists were able to implant a false memory in mice by manipulating specific cells in the brain’s hippocampus.

Because previous studies that have shown that our memories can be malleable, the team wondered if they might be able to change the emotions linked to those memories.

First, they created some good and bad memories in a group of mice, all male – some were allowed to cavort with female mice, and others were given a mild electric shock. Next, the scientists pulsed light on the mice’s brains to activate the same neurons used when they’d had those positive and negative experiences.

Perhaps not surprisingly, the mice that had socialized with females spent more time in the portion of the cage where they’d last experienced that pleasure, and the mice that had been shocked avoided that portion of the cage out of fear.

Then, the scientists wondered if they could reverse or lessen the feelings tied to those memories. While pulsing light on those memory-related neurons to switch them on, they gave electric shocks to the previously happy mice, and let the previously fearful mice socialize with females.

It turned out that the mice that had previously been shocked spent time on the side of the cage where it happened, associating it with pleasure – and the mice that had originally been rewarded with female company were now afraid of that side of the cage.

The neuroscientists had effectively been able to turn good feelings into bad ones, and vice versa, by activating the brain cells in the hippocampus where those memories were encoded.

When they ran the whole experiment again, but this time tracking brain cells in the amygdala — the part of the brain that processes emotions — they found they were once again able to induce pleasure or fear in mice. But this time they couldn't turn the pleasure and pain around. This, the scientists said, showed that the link between emotions associated with specific memories are found in the stretch of neurons that connect the hippocampus to the amygdala.

"In the future, one may be able to develop methods that help people to remember positive memories more strongly than negative ones," said Tonegawa.
We discussed this back in our Inorganic Chemistry class back in college, the fact that memories are only chemical signals and neural paths and that it should be possible to alter or edit them.

On the topic of erasing or easing negative emotions linked to traumatic events....if you forget something because the memory has been erased or altered then did it still happen? People who undergo surgery face this. Yes, intellectually they know that surgery took place--see? here is the scar from where I had my gall bladder removed--but they weren't actually present for it and so there isn't as much emotional impact.

Let us suppose, for the sake of discussion, that the research gets to the point where they can do things like the movie the article mentioned, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (not a bad movie, by the way--I recommend it), and negative memories or emotions can be edited out. Should this be done? If a rape victim decides to have those memories removed is she trying to live in denial or is she acting in her own best interest by removing the event from her mind?

On the other hand, what if memories can be implanted? Can false personalities be created by constructing enough of the right memories to create a past for someone which didn't exist?

If your memories create who you are, by editing them are you turning yourself into someone else? Since you wouldn't remember the person you used to be would you even care?

Could this be done for violent offenders, turning them into responsible and productive citizens, erasing the violent person they used to be? Wouldn't this end the need for prisons? Could other violent or sociopathic behaviors be permanently cured by editing out those neural pathways?

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:54 pm
by aliantha
I don't think it would work for violent offenders with the extra Y chromosome (or whatever it is). The genetic anomaly would still be in place, and would override any edits in the person's memory.

In fact, I don't know that it would affect any behavior that has a genetic component. If you're genetically predisposed to be an alcoholic, say, implanting a set of memories that have you drinking responsibly aren't going to help, if you're still hanging around with the people you used to get drunk with before you had the memory change.

I do think it would be helpful, though, for people who have PTSD or who are otherwise profoundly troubled by events in their past. It's the emotional reaction to the memory that triggers the behaviors in the here-and-now, as I understand it.

Who knows? Maybe Linden would have been less whiny if her memories of her father's death and her mother's cruelty had been altered. ;)

Re: Reversible Memories

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:58 pm
by Vraith
Hashi Lebwohl wrote: If a rape victim decides to have those memories removed is she trying to live in denial or is she acting in her own best interest by removing the event from her mind?

Could other violent or sociopathic behaviors be permanently cured by editing out those neural pathways?
I saw that piece. And a while ago one on PTSD, and why the same event in soldiers made some of them better/stronger/more adaptable folk and others it ruined [or at least required lots of therapy/drug treatments]. And similar questions to the ones you posed occurred to me.

Do we want, in the first case to remove the memory? [perhaps beneficial...but strikes me as not a solution, and perhaps dangerous/unintended consequences]
Do we want to do what these scientists did and make the victim feel good about being victimized? [that just strikes me as being flat out wrong...even evil-ish].
Or do we want to do something else...the thing suggested at the end, for instance, just weaken the emotional strength of the incident, and raise the intensity of other, good memories.
Or, perhaps, a third way...compare the paths/connections in survivors who became stronger after trauma, and stimulate/activate those paths in the weakened folk.

On the sociopath...perhaps something similar to the above besides simply editing out/destroying memories? Cuz what makes a sociopath? We know, in part, traumatic events often contribute. But it also seems there is also a physical component [genetic sometimes, but also physical head trauma is involved sometimes, and tumors and such]. So, it might be a matter of creating/reestablishing certain connections/wiring, AND adjusting the relative emotional weight.
But there's a whole helluva a lot we don't know about how events, memories, emotional impact, reasoning, past, present, future ordering/weighting work together.
I mean, good god [this is admittedly far-fetched but it scared me] what if someone is violently assaulted, whatever...and they go to get the memory removed. So then they go to the same club or whatever, [cuz they have only good memories of it] the person who did it sees them, isn't recognized, and does it to them AGAIN.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:10 pm
by aliantha
There would be ethical considerations, for sure.

And agreed on the sociopath thing. I could see this as a therapy to be used in conjunction with other treatments, but it wouldn't be a cure-all.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:14 pm
by Hashi Lebwohl
Agreeed--memory isn't a set of blocks which can be taken apart and reconstructed at a whim; rather, they are more like trying to untie a complicated knot in the dark when you cannot see the knotted strings.

Still...if the sharp edge of trauma can be eased then I could see many benefits of some sort of workable therapy but that is a long way off, to be certain.