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Paragraphophobia - Down With This Sort Of Thing!
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:11 pm
by ussusimiel
TheFallen has finally found the
end of his tether with certain posting styles and has posed the question:
TheFallen wrote:BTW, where the Hell does your paragraphophobia come from?
We seek answers!
Personally, idiosyncratic posting styles don't bother me. I read them and take as much as I can easily from the post, If it is confusing or basically gibberish, I ignore it (assuming that the poster is not that concerned with my understanding). If it leaves me confused or intrigued about something, I'll ask for some clarification.
However, I know that it annoys some people more than others. Where do you stand on this important issue of our time?
u.
[EDIT: to fix typo.]
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:12 pm
by Sorus
Doesn't bother me. Then again, glass houses and whatnot - my own style is fairly idiosyncratic - case in point - excessive hyphenation and too-long sentences that sometimes ramble on and on and on.
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:52 pm
by aliantha
We've had all kinds on the Watch over the years.
As long as it's not a huge, long wall of text with no breaks at all, I'm okay with it.
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:19 am
by Vraith
Hah.
Since this [the original question] was directly aimed at me, though I am aware other people have their quirks [lurch spring to mind instantly], I will respond with why I do what I do...[not exactly on topic, but still pertinent]
But first, I like the way people post...I think it tells me something [though not everything, or even lot] about the poster.
Even without that, the variety is good.
Notice the lack of indigo. This has a purpose in this post which I will highlight later with red and size.
I've approached this before in bits and pieces and comments, but I will list it now in a not-necessarily-complete and nearly-corporate-not-essay-like-therefore-easy-to-read-piece-of-junk with possibly-other-divergent-inserts/explanations:
--I stole the color idea from Hashi, and basically the same reason. Quick identification.
--I type as my brain thinks. In chunks, asides, and digressions.
My brain is not the only one that works that way. Everyone's does, to some extent.
--I can/could edit those out. But if I don't use it, I lose it.
--that loss is very often double for me. To edit, I must slow down.
Doing that, I lose not only what I edited, but things that might sprout, chain, or explode from them.
--the brackets, ellipses, slashes with multiple word chains, etc. are shortcuts I have ingrained in my fingers for rapid notation, brainstorming, implications to notice or pursue.
--some others ingrained are meant to reflect my inflection as if speaking.
--partly this is and attempt to convey to others. Emphasis MATTERS, even if the rules tell you not to.
--but the rules are for writing. This place, to me, isn't about writing. It's more conversation.
--this is also related to, as I said to Ali recently, the fact that I think best when speaking. I don't mean prepared speech, reciting/repeating/presenting. I mean finding/creating new thoughts, ideas, understandings. Where my mouth is already moving and I have no clue what is about to come out of it.
--so I have habits I've put into my fingers as an attempt [only somewhat successful] to enhance thinking by imitating speaking.
--so while I can conform to grammar/structure...in fact have some expertise in it...
--in addition to all the previous, censoring/slowing/editing/adhering follows a progression for me.
--boring, to annoying to enraging. [ok, enraging is a bit over the top].
--and I'm here for the fun.
----and it WAS fun to put here, even if more "serious" than the thread intended.
[[[I would mention that there's some potential humor tucked away in it....if we didn't all already know, cuz u. told us, that I am never, ever, even slightly funny.]]]
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:29 am
by Avatar
Hahahaha, I've complained in the past I think.

I don't care, but it makes it harder to read for me. Not the digressive style, I have no problems with that, but the lack of paragraph breaks.
Interesting insight into the process though. I tend to write thoughtfully myself. Usually a sentence at a time, but rarely more than a paragraph, even if they do get a
little long sometimes.
Y'know, you can always blurt it all out and
then edit it before posting?

Really not serious though...whatever works for you is fine with us. And if it's not, tough.
--A
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:33 pm
by Hashi Lebwohl
.it doing while else someone trash-talking aren't they and say to need or want they what saying are they that is matters that all ,comments their posts someone how matter doesn't It
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:02 pm
by wayfriend
I have to admit, sometimes I post with line breaks
because I feel that paragraphs that are only one or two lines,
but which are very, very wide,
induce an urge to pass it over, unread.
So line breaks are a form of emphasis.
When I am more scholarly, I am not looking to solicit interest - either you are interested or you are not reading it in the first place - and so I amble on, letting the browser break lines at the sides of people's monitors. However, the inclusion of a giant picture in the thread can reflow text to an even wider stance, and that usually exceeds my personal tolerances.
I have no thoughts about unusual punctuation.
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:05 pm
by Frostheart Grueburn
Kuis nynnäi? Kyl maar mää voisinki Turum murret ruvet näppiksel nakuttaan ko kettää ei honais yhtikä mittää! Tätä ku ei ossaa ees kuukkeli kääntää vaik mitepäi änkeis siihel lootaa.
Let the mellifluous symphonies of my ancestral dialect caress your ears!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_TVP-BUh4M
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:39 pm
by Hashi Lebwohl
I know what language I want to study now.
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:15 pm
by Orlion
Hashi Lebwohl wrote:I know what language I want to study now.
You won't regret it! Spanish is a beautiful, diverse language....

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:14 pm
by aliantha
Orlion wrote:Hashi Lebwohl wrote:I know what language I want to study now.
You won't regret it! Spanish is a beautiful, diverse language....

And the spelling rules are stupid easy.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:36 pm
by Frostheart Grueburn
Orlion wrote:Hashi Lebwohl wrote:I know what language I want to study now.
You won't regret it! Spanish is a beautiful, diverse language....

Always remember the correct spelling: Spänish. The name of the language wishes to celebrate the existence of all these umlauts the Vikings brought along when they conquered Hispania.
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:43 pm
by Hashi Lebwohl
Pero yo puedo hablar (or leer) espanol ahora, un poco. I still have my book, as well as my French book and a smaller book on Japanese (which I was using in the Uechi Ryu class). I really miss Uechi Ryu. A lot. Had I been able to keep up the classes I would have already tested for my black but that would have likely meant a trip to Japan with my instructor. That would have been an extremely enjoyable trip.
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:39 pm
by sgt.null
I thought we were going to discuss my lake of upper casing - except where the damn machine decides that I need it.
and my love for randomness that makes sense to me but fuddles the rest of you.
and yes I caught the mistake I made but decided I liked how it sounded.
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:47 pm
by ussusimiel
Your style is usually fairly clear, Sarge. I'm not sure that it bugs that many people.
The lack of Caps is a fairly common thing nowadays.
And randomness, well that just leads to great
swingeing thread drifts!
u.
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:11 am
by Vraith
EDIT TO ADD: I wish to hell I could see when people were posting about stuff I was replying to while I was busy typing in some easy way.
Yea yea, what does all that stuff have to do with anything?
Oh, this is why the thread exists, I was meant to read:
Hashi Lebwohl wrote: Uechi Ryu
Heh...you've mentioned katana before, so I was expecting something Japanese...but in fact, it has the same Chinese root as what I know [well...am coming to know] even the wiki on it describes the purpose of kata similarly.
Sarge...I like your lake of upper casings, too. 
the lake of lower casings might be a problem, though.
we are not fuddled by your love of randomness.
And, I won't speak for anyone else, [yes I will, I'll say "we"]
But we won't be cuddled by your love of randiness, either.
P.S.
why let damn machines decide where you need lakes of upper casings?
I'd call the CDC, not trust Siri.
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:18 am
by Vraith
wait...sorry for double post...but who the hell voted that they hate it?
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:12 am
by sgt.null
Vraith wrote:wait...sorry for double post...but who the hell voted that they hate it?
knot eye.
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:57 am
by I'm Murrin
I can't even work out what the poll options are meant to mean.
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:50 pm
by ussusimiel
I'm Murrin wrote:I can't even work out what the poll options are meant to mean.
I realised that after I'd posted them, and then thought it kinda fit with the topic. What I meant was, if you don't like unorthodox posting styles, vote Down!, and if they don't bother you (or you actually prefer them), vote Up!
'Paragraphophobia' it the word TheFallen coined to describe an aspect of Vraith's posting style, namely, putting each new thought/sentence on a new line, rather than developing paragraphs in the usual manner.
u.