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“A cry to arms” what is that?

Allow people the space they need to grieve ... this is a sad day.

Skyweir wrote:“A cry to arms” what is that?

Allow people the space they need to grieve ... this is a sad day.

On social media liberals are threatening to take to the streets and start burning more stuff down if Republicans replace RBG. I've read for some calling for people to go farther and target Republicans for violence. So we get their message. I've seen for outright calls to assassinate McConnell. Oddly enough Twitter allowed those to stay up.

sgt.null wrote:

Skyweir wrote:“A cry to arms” what is that?

Allow people the space they need to grieve ... this is a sad day.

On social media liberals are threatening to take to the streets and start burning more stuff down if Republicans replace RBG.

I've read for some calling for people to go farther and target Republicans for violence. So we get their message. I've seen for outright calls to assassinate McConnell. Oddly enough Twitter allowed those to stay up.

Oh well if you read it on social media it must be true.

Hsshi - its a push for those who will do it. They left has a group dedicated to violence with blm and antifa. Thise who don't want to get u volved with the violence can bail out tbose who do.

I am more worried about the hardcore Trump supporters who might riot over Trump losing despite it looking like he was winning last night (and the fact that he declared victory).

There's a lot of conspiracies floating around about the Dems "cheating."

ur-Nanothnir wrote:There's a lot of conspiracies floating around about the Dems "cheating."

There are indeed.

Mainly now being propagated by the Trump campaign (of course) - but as I've said continually, whichever side lost this election was bound to cry foul, blame subversion and corruption, demand recounts and attempt to mount legal challenges of varying kinds. It'd be the height of dishonesty to pretend that the Dems wouldn't have done the exact same, if the positions had been reversed.

However, what really hasn't helped is that moronic Dem Attorney General in Pennsylvania (Shapiro?), who tweeted that Trump was guaranteed to lose PA before even a single vote had been counted there....



I mean, seriously? What the fuck was he thinking? As a very senior officer of the law within the state AND the man in charge of PA's election process, the optics this cretin caused with that crashingly dumbass comment hardly look great, eh?

Well Biden was up 5-6 points in polling for PA right before the election. So he could have been making a remark based on that. I agree that he shouldn't have.

Count everything. I believe thst Trump loses in the end. But Republicans retain the Senate. They gain some House seats and there is no Blue wave. Republicans can prevent the most radical, socialist planks of the Democrats platform. With Scotus there to stop the erosion of our Constitutional rights.

With the inroads Republicans made with Hispanics and blacks the Republicans need to actually work. Get Scott to keep working on police reform. Make prison reform a Republican issue. Get infrastructure done. Oppose war. Continue to push for normalizing peace treaties with Muslim states. Fight against a new Iran deal. Fight against re-entering the Paris treaty. Continue to insist Nato countries pay their fair share.

Legalize weed to end the war on drugs fiasco. We've got to fight against open borders. Fight for election reform. Push for a war on plastics pollution in the oceans. Fight for staying free of overseas fossil fuels.

Trump could have done more than he did. And what good he did needs to be continued. He just would not listen.

The Republican party can continue to work for taking unions from Democrats and keeping jobs in America.

Trump supporters tried to storm an Arizona (Maricopa Co.) electoral site after baseless claims were made on social media that Trump ballots were not being counted.

The sheriff's department was called, and police wearing full tactical gear took action against the demonstrators.

sgt.null wrote:Count everything. I believe thst Trump loses in the end. But Republicans retain the Senate. They gain some House seats and there is no Blue wave. Republicans can prevent the most radical, socialist planks of the Democrats platform. With Scotus there to stop the erosion of our Constitutional rights.

With the inroads Republicans made with Hispanics and blacks the Republicans need to actually work. Get Scott to keep working on police reform. Make prison reform a Republican issue. Get infrastructure done. Oppose war. Continue to push for normalizing peace treaties with Muslim states. Fight against a new Iran deal. Fight against re-entering the Paris treaty. Continue to insist Nato countries pay their fair share.

Legalize weed to end the war on drugs fiasco. We've got to fight against open borders. Fight for election reform. Push for a war on plastics pollution in the oceans. Fight for staying free of overseas fossil fuels.

Trump could have done more than he did. And what good he did needs to be continued. He just would not listen.

The Republican party can continue to work for taking unions from Democrats and keeping jobs in America.

Pretty good post Sarge. Sounds like a workable way forward to me.

--A

ur-Nanothnir wrote:after baseless claims were made on social media

As noted in the "social media" thread, this is why social media platforms need to start being held accountable for posts which get posted; they, in turn, will hold users accountable--if people would stop saying stupid shit online then a lot of stupid shit would not be happening.

Joy Reid over at MSNBC thinks that all the votes Trump received indicate how much racism and "anti-wokeness" still exists. *sigh* Racism will exist as long as human beings exist, Ms. Reid, and it is not limited to any skin color whatsoever. "Anti-wokeness" deserves to exist because "wokeness" is an illogical and irrational mindset.

AOC took shots at MSNBC commentator Claire McCaskill, asking "Why do we listen to people who lost elections as if they are experts in winning elections?". This means that, according to AOC, every person who has ever lost an election should sit down and shut up about elections; this list would include Bernie Sanders (who couldn't even win a Democrat nomination), Hillary Clinton (obviously), Robert Francis, etc. Eventually, when AOC herself loses an election at some point, we can then remind her of her own comment.

A list of Democrats threatening retribution against Trump supporters.

https://mobile.twitter.com/DrewHolden36 ... 8659232768

Washington Post on the Truth & Reconciliation committees.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... carthyism/

You would think Biden might want to tell his own side he wants to be president for everyone?

https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/11/ ... ald-trump/

I told you there was not going to be any reconciliation.

Wajahat Ali, contributing writer for the New York Times wrote: You can't heal or reform the GOP who are now an extremist party. They have to be broken, burned down and rebuilt. When Biden is in power treat them like the active threats to democracy they are. If those who committed crimes aren't punished then they will be more emboldened.

A group already exists calling itself the Truth Accountability Project. Its goal is to "make a record of every staffer, appointee, donor, endorsee, and enabler of Trump". That's right--they are making an "enemies list" and they want to purge the sinners.

Preston Mitchum, a liberal community organizer in Washington, D.C. wrote:I won't empathize with, support, forgive, understand, make amends for, or reconcile with Trump supporters. Not a single one. He was a proud white nationalist who proudly raised up many white supremacists. That's who supported him. And I make no apologies for saying this.

I have already been there, Mr. Mitchum--I see no reason to forgive, understand, or reconcile wtih un-American and unconstitutional Democrats who tried to undermine a legitimate administration for four years, including weaponizing the FBI and using foreign agents to listen to Russian pub-talk and turn that into an impeachment. Beesides, how are they going to enforce "truth and accountability" laws or dictates when they cannot rely on the police? You cannot support "defund the police" and then expect them to go around bringing people before your unlawful commission/tribunal/kangaroo court. You won't be able to rely on the military, either--they will disobey illegal orders.

As I said, those people are over-celebrating their victory--Democrats really did not win that much, mostly just the White House. Big fucking deal--we have the Court, so good luck getting anything you want passed.

Hashi Lebwohl wrote:Big fucking deal--we have the Court, so good luck getting anything you want passed.

The Court has no role in passing legislation. So long as any bills hew within Constitutional and legal guardrails, the Court will have no voice on legislation passed (or not) by the Congress.

Also, did you just say the quiet part out loud? Normally, the polite fiction that the Court is nonpartisan is not explicitly contradicted. You admit that what has been done to SCOTUS since February 2016 is nakedly political? Truth, but I hardly expected an outright admission.

Perhaps you meant to say:

Hashi Lebwohl wrote:Big fucking deal--we probably have the Senate, so good luck getting anything you want passed.

Yep, yep, yep. Hundreds of House-passed bills have died, are dying, and likely will die on the Majority Leader's desk, having never been taken up by the Senate.

You might want to edit that, SD. Hashi hypothetically said.

Anyway, it would seem Trump and every Republican in the country other than you, Hashi, thinks having the presidency is a big fucking deal, indeed.