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Did we already do this?

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:48 am
by Cail
I'm currently watching the 1978 version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers, and made a comment about what an amazing actor Donald Sutherland is. And then I got to thinking about who the greatest living actor is, and I sort of thought we'd had a topic on that, but I couldn't find it.

So here we go.....(or here we go to get merged into the other topic) Who's the greatest living actor?

One could make an argument for De Niro. One could make an argument for Pacino. One could make an argument for Redford. One could make an argument for Caine. One could make an argument for Eastwood.

I don't really know. I think that prior to the blacklisting, a strong case can be made for Mel Gibson. I think a very strong case can be made for Michael Caine. Ditto for Albert Finney. But what about Jack Nicholson? Or Meryl Streep? Or Glenn Close? Or Robert Duval?

I don't have an answer. You?

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:21 am
by lorin
I think it's about range. And when it comes to range there is no one that compares to DeNiro and Streep.

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:32 am
by Cail
lorin wrote:I think it's about range. And when it comes to range there is no one that compares to DeNiro and Streep.
I see that and raise you Willem Dafoe.

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:40 am
by Cail
And after some looking, I'll add Michael Douglas.

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:18 pm
by Rigel
Christopher Walken

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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:49 pm
by Vraith
I'm not sure Walken or Douglas have range, though I like them both.
I like most of the ones mentioned.
I've said before, I'm sure, somewhere...you can't talk about great actors and not include Daniel Day-Lewis.
He's brilliant, almost flawless [though I can't really get behind "Mohicans."
I like the movie [it grew on me], but it's his least interesting role IMO.]

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:58 am
by rdhopeca
Cail wrote:And after some looking, I'll add Michael Douglas.
I'll see that and raise you Robin Williams. All the dramatic range of the others, plus the comedic talent.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:45 pm
by Cail
rdhopeca wrote:
Cail wrote:And after some looking, I'll add Michael Douglas.
I'll see that and raise you Robin Williams. All the dramatic range of the others, plus the comedic talent.
No longer living, so not eligible. But yes, Williams had some real talent.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:58 pm
by Cagliostro
It's so hard for me to make that bold of a statement, especially since every time I do, their very next role disappoints me.

So let me say one of my favorite living actors would have to be Toni Colette. I remember reading an article in Entertainment Weekly about her, and was amazed I had watched many of her movies at the time, but never put together that it was the same person. It was kind of an exploding head moment for me.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:35 pm
by dlbpharmd
Vraith wrote:I'm not sure Walken or Douglas have range, though I like them both.
I like most of the ones mentioned.
I've said before, I'm sure, somewhere...you can't talk about great actors and not include Daniel Day-Lewis.
He's brilliant, almost flawless [though I can't really get behind "Mohicans."
I like the movie [it grew on me], but it's his least interesting role IMO.]
I second DDL. For the women, it has to be Meryl Streep.

Every other actor mentioned lacks range, or is the same character no matter the role.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:44 pm
by wayfriend
Rutger Hauer was the greatest actor ever, for one movie.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 2:26 pm
by Obi-Wan Nihilo
Helen Mirren is up there (I think of her as a female Olivier). I'm also a fan of Cate Blanchett. Anthony Hopkins. Denzel Washington is pretty darn good. Gene Hackman. Gay Oldman. Kevin Spacey has to be mentioned. Joaquin Phoenix.

I guess at the end of the day I have to second Bobby D. He's limited as a romantic lead but it's hard to top his sheer commitment.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 2:55 pm
by Cail
Helen Mirren is superb, as is Gene Hackman. In fact, it's tough to argue against either one.

I have never seen a DDL film that I thought was worth my time. Not a single one. To me he's as over-rated as Dustin Hoffman.

And Rutger Hauer's best role was The Hitcher.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:28 pm
by SoulBiter
Tom Hanks should be mentioned in this list.

Forest Gump
Big
Cast Away
Capt. Phillips
Green Mile
Apollo 13
Charlie Wilsons War

I could name another half dozen or so pretty easy

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:36 pm
by Obi-Wan Nihilo
I put Hanks in the same category as Tom Cruise: an A-list movie star who is also an excellent actor, but not really in the conversation for greatest.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:05 pm
by SoulBiter
Doc Hexnihilo wrote:I put Hanks in the same category as Tom Cruise: an A-list movie star who is also an excellent actor, but not really in the conversation for greatest.
I would never lump Cruise into the same catagory as Hanks. Cruise doesnt have half the acting chops that Hanks does nor is he half as committed to the roles that he plays.

Think... Philadelphia.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:33 pm
by Cail
Hanks is a solid actor, like Denzel. Neither of them rise to the "best ever" group.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 6:20 pm
by Hashi Lebwohl
I don't think there is such a thing as "greatest" living actor; there are far too many variables to choose only one. At best, you can name a Top 5 or Top 10 list and then make the cases for them (or against anyone who didn't make the list).


Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:00 pm
by dlbpharmd
Cail wrote: I have never seen a DDL film that I thought was worth my time. Not a single one. To me he's as over-rated as Dustin Hoffman.
No love for Lincoln? There Will Be Blood?

Helen Mirren is indeed superb.

Robert de Niro was great in his youth, but what has he done lately? He hasn't really stretched as an actor since Good Fellas, and that was 25 years ago.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:07 pm
by Vraith
dlbpharmd wrote:
Cail wrote: I have never seen a DDL film that I thought was worth my time. Not a single one. To me he's as over-rated as Dustin Hoffman.
No love for Lincoln? There Will Be Blood?
Heh...I didn't expect fannity from C.
But I did expect perhaps those, and especially "Gangs of New York" to be in his line.

But DDL is the real deal.