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Could you make the descent from Kevin's Watch?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:01 pm
by aTOMiC
One of the most memorable moments that left a very distinct impression on me when I first read Lord Foul's Bane was the scene where Covenant finally agrees to make the climb down from Kevin's Watch. The narrative paints a rather unimaginable picture for anyone not just Thomas Covenant. A relatively narrow column of stairs cut into the side of a stone cylinder angling out away from the side of a mountain that places the Watch itself thousands of feet above the valley below. The stairs have no railing, its essentially an exposed ladder that is angled just enough that each step is slightly below and away from the one above. Covenant must navigate this harrowing scenario without being able to properly feel his fingers, without any feeling in his feet and only three fingers on one hand. AND fighting vertigo the entire way. Maybe its just me but I wouldn't want to have anything to do with making a descent of this kind under any conditions. However TC managed it because he really had no other choice. Thankfully Lena was there to assist however she could which at least provided a bit of moral support.
For me given the same circumstances I have to admit I'd be forced to take on the descent but if it weren't in any way a life and death situation I definitely would avoid it all costs.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:09 pm
by Cord Hurn
I have acrophobia, so it would be difficult for me. I picked the "I'd have to be there" option.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:46 pm
by aTOMiC
Cord Hurn wrote:I have acrophobia, so it would be difficult for me. I picked the "I'd have to be there" option.
In truth that is probably the most logical response. No one ever really knows how they would react under stress. At least not for certain.
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:42 am
by sgt.null
no problems with heights, I would rather not starve to death, so down is the only way to go.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:01 am
by Ur Dead
I suffer from vertigo.. One step is all I would have to make and I would be down...
The first book was made out that it was hard to get down.
But the third book Saltheart made the trek, so it would have to be determined how large and wide the steps were.
Add the slope of the decent would have to be known.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:32 pm
by aTOMiC
Ur Dead wrote:I suffer from vertigo.. One step is all I would have to make and I would be down...
The first book was made out that it was hard to get down.
But the third book Saltheart made the trek, so it would have to be determined how large and wide the steps were.
Add the slope of the decent would have to be known.
Watch that first step. Its a doozy.

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:02 am
by peter
No way! Lena would have to have brought me food and shelter and my entire time in the Land would have been spent on the Watch (until the Haruchai bundled me kicking and screaming onto their shoulders and carried me down).

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:11 pm
by Vraith
Ur Dead wrote:I suffer from vertigo.. One step is all I would have to make and I would be down...
The first book was made out that it was hard to get down.
But the third book Saltheart made the trek, so it would have to be determined how large and wide the steps were.
Add the slope of the decent would have to be known.
The giant had advantages---not least, the giantish affinity for stone and a ton of experience.
Having been forced to confront my own issues a couple times---naked heights like cliffs and ladders above the second story being one of them---I could probably force myself to make the descent...but there is a reasonably high risk I'd have a heart attack on the way down, and would need a day or two of "I'll just lie here in the fetal position, if you don't mind" recovery after reaching the bottom.
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:16 pm
by aTOMiC
Most of my life I didn't think I had issues with heights until I bought a house with vaulted ceilings. The fluorescent light fixtures above the kitchen rose to about 20 feet above the floor. One day the light went out and I was faced with having to replace it. I didn't think there would be any problem so I borrowed a really tall ladder and proceeded up until I got near the light. Then it hit me. I looked down and suddenly realized just how high I was and began to feel dizzy. I had no idea I had a problem until that moment.
I would ultimately have made it down from Kevin's Watch but it would be the most difficult thing I would have to do...until having to battle Cavewights and Ur-viles and of course facing Lord Foul.
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:06 pm
by wayfriend
Ur Dead wrote:The first book was made out that it was hard to get down.
AFAICT the only person who had an issue with ascending and descending the Watch was Covenant.
I would probably be terrified. But I am not surprised that Stonedowners and Giants handle it better than I would.
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:37 pm
by Orlion
It's an interesting contrast between real life and fantasy. We often read fantasy as a form of escapism, and sometimes indulge in thoughts such as, "I wish I lived there, that would be so cool..."
But what we don't realize is that some of the simplest tasks characters in these books do would be the hardest obstacle we would ever face! And we have not even thought about the epic tasks!
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:15 am
by peter
Kevin's Watch, I think, is set at that nasty point where a stair becomes a ladder: it demands a weight distribution at the beastly 'tipping point' between leaning towards the next step or actively hauling yourself up it. This and the vertiginous drop surrounding you make it an especially harrowing experience. I'd stay at the top and have the land-dwellers cater to my every need until Drool threw his hands up in despair and sent me home. Definitely.
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:38 pm
by wayfriend
I've often wondered if there is a metaphoric significance to the decent of Kevin's Watch being the gateway into the Land.
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:45 pm
by High Lord Tolkien
I like Lindens way down the the best actually. A lot faster.

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:47 pm
by aTOMiC
I think the method Hile Troy attempted after seeing how big Foul's army was may be the fastest.

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:29 pm
by Skyweir
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:49 pm
by Hunchback Jack
I would find it extremely difficult, but starvation and thirst would probably drive me to it. I don't know if I'd be physically able to descend, however. I would probably fall.
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:17 am
by Fist and Faith
I could and would. I'm quite fond of heights. If Covenant could do it with his handicaps, it's doable.
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:11 pm
by Zarathustra
I'm doing the roof sales thing again, helping to repair damage from Irma in Florida. Even doing this for a living, I hate that first step off the roof to the ladder. Once you're on it, it's fine. Going up is also fine. But the transition from having your weight firmly planted on one surface and then dangling it out--backwards--to a ladder is frightening. I don't like it one bit.
If you've ever had someone toss you something small from a height of even 20 feet off the ground, you'll get a good idea how quickly gravity can accelerate an object from a very short distance. A fall from even 20 feet would be devastating to the human body.
I'd make the decent from KW, but I'd be grumbling Hellfire all the way down.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:22 pm
by darthbuzz
No freaking way. I'd starve to death before I could muster the courage.
I would probably just jump.

... no silly emoji's... I meant jump off. Doh!
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