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That is the second time someone has used that line and nobody laughs especially Revan.dANdeLION wrote:All we can be sure of is that witches are made of wood, and they weigh as much as a duck.
What is the world coming to?
Next you'll tell me that you can't use sheep's bladders to predict earthquakes.
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Revan is woefully inadequate as an Englishman, isn't he? He hasn't even seen "Holy grail". In case you hadn't noticed Rev, I'm taunting you a second time!
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Dandelion don't tell no lies
Dandelion will make you wise
Tell me if she laughs or cries
Blow away dandelion
I'm afraid there's no denying
I'm just a dandelion
a fate I don't deserve.
High priest of THOOOTP
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Dandelion will make you wise
Tell me if she laughs or cries
Blow away dandelion
I'm afraid there's no denying
I'm just a dandelion
a fate I don't deserve.
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lol
haaaahhahahahahahhahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahah, a duck, hahahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahhahah bloody hystericalhahahahahahhahahahah (ah if only the emoticaons actually worked). I love Holy Grail. I laugh in your general direction, ahahahahhahahaha
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exact same thing can be said for ChristianitydANdeLION wrote:I'm not even sure if there's any truth to the statement that there even is a Witchcraft religion. If there is, though; there's bound to be truths sprinkled in to make the lies more convincing.
Think on that, and be dismayed
What do you do to a man who has lost everything?
Give him back something broken
What do you do to a man who has lost everything?
Give him back something broken
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Wow. Two people who haven't seen it? This is sad, really sad.CovenantJr wrote:Ah, that would explain whyI didn't get it either *shudder* Monty Python... *shudder again*dANdeLION wrote:Revan is woefully inadequate as an Englishman, isn't he? He hasn't even seen "Holy grail". In case you hadn't noticed Rev, I'm taunting you a second time!
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"Monty Python and the Holy Grail" is about, at base, nothing. That's the point. ("What's your favorite color?" "Blue. No, green! AAAAAAUUUGHHHH!")
What a great movie!
Youngest daughter just participated in a talent show in which she and a pal recreated the dead parrot sketch. I actually found and purchased online a stuffed Norwegian Blue Parrot (resting). Little x's on the eyes, "nails" through the feet, etc.
Anyway.
As I understand it (and I'm no expert, as I've only skirted the edges of Wicca for the past couple of years), Wicca as a religion was invented in the early 20th century. Wiccans are Pagans, but not all Pagans are Wiccans. And yes, it is a religion. For more info, www.witchvox.com is a good place to go.
Oh, yeah -- those pointy-hatted, warty witches you see at Halloween? In medieval times, if you were sick or needed help with a relationship, you went to your neighborhood elderly wise woman. She was pagan, of course -- everybody was. When the Christian Church came through and forcibly converted everybody, these elderly wise women, or wicce (witches), were accused of heresy, consorting with the devil, riding around on broomsticks, turning themselves into black cats, etc. -- in other words, they were generally demonized. Many of them were burned. So basically, the Church invented witches because they were scared of a bunch of old ladies.
Today's Wiccans are peace-loving and do NOT do evil spells. Heck, wouldn't you be careful, if a major tenet of your faith was, "Anything you do to someone else will come back to you threefold"?
What a great movie!
Youngest daughter just participated in a talent show in which she and a pal recreated the dead parrot sketch. I actually found and purchased online a stuffed Norwegian Blue Parrot (resting). Little x's on the eyes, "nails" through the feet, etc.
Anyway.
As I understand it (and I'm no expert, as I've only skirted the edges of Wicca for the past couple of years), Wicca as a religion was invented in the early 20th century. Wiccans are Pagans, but not all Pagans are Wiccans. And yes, it is a religion. For more info, www.witchvox.com is a good place to go.
Oh, yeah -- those pointy-hatted, warty witches you see at Halloween? In medieval times, if you were sick or needed help with a relationship, you went to your neighborhood elderly wise woman. She was pagan, of course -- everybody was. When the Christian Church came through and forcibly converted everybody, these elderly wise women, or wicce (witches), were accused of heresy, consorting with the devil, riding around on broomsticks, turning themselves into black cats, etc. -- in other words, they were generally demonized. Many of them were burned. So basically, the Church invented witches because they were scared of a bunch of old ladies.
Today's Wiccans are peace-loving and do NOT do evil spells. Heck, wouldn't you be careful, if a major tenet of your faith was, "Anything you do to someone else will come back to you threefold"?
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Yes, things like the devil's pitchfork, the witch's hat, etc., were once holy Pagan symbols, but the Church turned them around.
If that were true I'd cast a pleasure spell or something on somebody.aliantha wrote:"Anything you do to someone else will come back to you threefold"?
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I agree with aliantha that witches have been unfairly maligned, to put it mildly. A friend of mine is a Wiccan priestess in her spare time. As far as I can tell, she hasn't ridiculed or persecuted anyone whose belief systems don't agree with hers. She is not interested in having the power of life and death over people. She is a caring, considerate friend.
Obviously then, she must be the Devil's agent.
(Searches in vain for "dripping with sarcasm" emoticon.)
Obviously then, she must be the Devil's agent.
(Searches in vain for "dripping with sarcasm" emoticon.)
I had the impression that Wicca was "in tune" with nature
and all natural things. (Life, plants, air, Earth, ect.)
But it was not considered an "Evil".
On the other side of the coin, what about Voo-Do? It recently became
an "official" religion in Haiti. (I believe it was Haiti). Voo-Do has always
been associated with "black" magic... but is it really? Is Wicca?
hmm... don't know. Depends on what YOU believe in I guess.
(At work, if I can figure out something that no one else can, I tell them,
"It was Voo-Do!" I sure get a few creepy looks then.
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And yes, I do believe that the "good" Christians did make a bad rap for
those that practiced "Witchcraft". If one did not conform to the Christian ways, then they were usually exiled or tortured, were they not?
How was this conceived as a "good" religion? The "right" way to live?
(Ahh, the wonders of people's beliefs!)
and all natural things. (Life, plants, air, Earth, ect.)
But it was not considered an "Evil".
On the other side of the coin, what about Voo-Do? It recently became
an "official" religion in Haiti. (I believe it was Haiti). Voo-Do has always
been associated with "black" magic... but is it really? Is Wicca?
hmm... don't know. Depends on what YOU believe in I guess.
(At work, if I can figure out something that no one else can, I tell them,
"It was Voo-Do!" I sure get a few creepy looks then.
)And yes, I do believe that the "good" Christians did make a bad rap for
those that practiced "Witchcraft". If one did not conform to the Christian ways, then they were usually exiled or tortured, were they not?
How was this conceived as a "good" religion? The "right" way to live?
(Ahh, the wonders of people's beliefs!)
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"For millions of years
mankind lived just like the animals.
Then something happened
that unleashed the power of our imagination -
we learned to talk."
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If PRO and CON are opposites,
then the opposite of PROgress must be...
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It's 4:19...
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has anyone here read 'the lancashire witches' by G. Harrison Ainsworth? Itis a startlingly good book, circa 1750 i think (will have to check that out), but I very much recommend it to anyone interested in this topic.
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Wicca is a wonderfully progressive religion.
The central tenet of the "faith" is that you can do anything you want, as long as it doesn't harm anyone.
The Rede specifically says: "and harm it none/do what ye will."
As Aliantha says, the "Law of Three" is there so that people will not be tempted to harm others.
However, the underlying principle of all witchcraft, (and there is no such thing as "evil" witchcraft, all knowledge is morally neutral, it's value, or harm, lies in the use thereof) is very simple. Basically it utilises the power of imagination, implemented by the will of the "witch".
The final line of almost any spell/incantation is "By My Will, So Mote It Be!"
The witch attempts to bend the principles of nature by the simple force of his willpower. It takes as given what I have long believed; that the entire world is an expression of the will of the inhabitants. Reality is, by it's very nature, a consensual hallucination, in which we all, knowingly or not, participate.
The fact that we cannot walk through walls is not because they are solid, but because the majority of people believe that they are.
The witch tries to sidestep this, by imposing his own interpretation of the current reality on the fabric of the general consensus, for a short time.
Awesome?
I think so.
Peace
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The central tenet of the "faith" is that you can do anything you want, as long as it doesn't harm anyone.
The Rede specifically says: "and harm it none/do what ye will."
As Aliantha says, the "Law of Three" is there so that people will not be tempted to harm others.
However, the underlying principle of all witchcraft, (and there is no such thing as "evil" witchcraft, all knowledge is morally neutral, it's value, or harm, lies in the use thereof) is very simple. Basically it utilises the power of imagination, implemented by the will of the "witch".
The final line of almost any spell/incantation is "By My Will, So Mote It Be!"
The witch attempts to bend the principles of nature by the simple force of his willpower. It takes as given what I have long believed; that the entire world is an expression of the will of the inhabitants. Reality is, by it's very nature, a consensual hallucination, in which we all, knowingly or not, participate.
The fact that we cannot walk through walls is not because they are solid, but because the majority of people believe that they are.
The witch tries to sidestep this, by imposing his own interpretation of the current reality on the fabric of the general consensus, for a short time.
Awesome?
I think so.
Peace
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It's a matter of persuading the universe to do things your way for a little while 