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Argh!!!
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:39 pm
by Mighara Sovmadhi
Caveats: article is from 2006, admits these matters are murky so not 100% confirmed or whatever. However:
www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/where ... n-seattle/
In the article:
- "Nearly one-quarter of America's 9,962 nuclear weapons are now assigned to the Bangor submarine base on Hood Canal, 20 air miles northwest of downtown Seattle. This makes Bangor the largest nuclear weapons storehouse in the United States, and possibly the world."
In case you're wondering why this makes a difference to me, this is where I live

That means...
... I really do live in Mordor
Argh!!!

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:11 am
by peter
Probably the safest place on the globe to live then Mig: when it comes to protecting the 'pretty things' in those bunkers no expense will be spared!

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:39 pm
by Mighara Sovmadhi
Oh no that's the problem

It would be overly easy for the government to fake a foreign nuclear attack from this area. Apparently there's even a lost nuke out in the waters or some damn thing. I crunched some of the numbers in the article, apparently the submarines carry the equivalent of over 15,000 Hiroshimas packed into their missiles... I always wondered why my dad said those submarines could destroy the world

I thought it was just because he was a nuclear engineer.
EDIT: Also a different article elsewhere reported that it is
illegal for Washington (the state, not D.C.) to specifically have an emergency response plan in the event of nuclear attack, or something along that line...
EDIT 2: And even if
I'm safe here, the
world isn't.
This place is one of the ultimate threats to the world. Not institutionally speaking so much, of course, just in terms of raw physical power. But still, that's the horror, for me. Such an arsenal of evil overshadowing this little land I live in.
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:55 am
by peter
We lie in the beds of other people's making on that score Mig. Still - if the worst happens we at least can take some consolation from the fact that when we go, we all go together!
In he meantime - party on!

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:56 am
by Avatar
Yeah, no point in worrying about something which you have absolutely no ability to change.
That's an example of unproductive worry, which one should avoid at all costs.
--A
Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:07 pm
by Mighara Sovmadhi
I guess I'm just taking it as a sign that, yeah, I really shouldn't live here, and everyone in the area who has said otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about...?
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:27 am
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If there's ever a nuclear explosion in Seattle, feel free to say "I told ya so!"
--A
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:41 am
by peter
....... and few people can say that they live in Armageddon! Now that's a talking point if ever there was one!

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:15 pm
by Mighara Sovmadhi
It's not you guys, it's my ex-coworkers, and not all of them to be sure, but now anyway my cat is staying with a friend whose house is aligned with Seattle (it's in this offshoot of the town of Port Orchard, an area known as Manchester), like you look across the water and voila, there's the downtown Seattle skyline in profile on the horizon. So, IDK...
Another part of me wants to go as close as the Bangor base (where the submarines are or whatever) and protest, although what I would protest IDK.
Anyway, in related news, there are two massive ships, no clue what they are (I don't think they're aircraft carriers but I honestly don't know), now docked in the Bremerton yard, and yesterday I saw a sizable convoy of military fuel tankers driving through town, I've seen things like this before and it didn't mean a prelude to war (as far as I know) but on the other hand, it still was kinda intimidating.
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:12 am
by peter
Glad your cat is safe Mig - and he/she
is. Their complete indifference to all things nuclear means they never have to worry the way we do, and they have nine lives, remember.

Seriously (just in case it was a possibility), going down there to protest is probably not a good idea. Governments are scratchy about that kind of stuff and react in a disproportionate way to it. This is one of those 'it is what it is' zones of life, where short of moving to NZ you aren't going to be able to determine its outcome. As such the adoption of a Buddha like acceptance of it is the way forward. Be lucky.
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:55 am
by Avatar
And be Zen.
--A
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:14 pm
by Mighara Sovmadhi
IDK, I didn't read the Covenant novels for nothing

Then again I don't got no white-gold ring with me if I were to go storm the gates to the Clave

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:58 pm
by peter
Or an army of Haruchai!

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:35 pm
by wayfriend
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:56 am
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--A