Musical associations to TCTC?
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Musical associations to TCTC?
Does anyone else connect certain pieces of music to
people, places, and events in TCTC?
I think of Giovanni Gabrieli's Canzon Quarti Toni,
as played by a brass ensemble merged from 3 major
orchestras, as a tone poem to Revelstone. It's in a
minor key and exudes nobility and majesty--and
since it's played by different groups of brass answering
each other across a large space (originally St. Mark's
in Venice) the sacred enclosure has the ideal
setting and acoustics for it!
The friend who introduced me to both TCTC and Sibelius
always said that the minor theme in the last movement of
Sibelius' 2nd Symphony reminded her of the scene in
Coercri at the end of The Wounded Land. I heard the
symphony first, but after I'd read the books I agreed.
On Gordon Bok's album _Dear to Our Island_ there's
a Mongolian song sung unaccompanied by the Quasimodal
Chorus; I don't remember its title and probably couldn't spell
it in the original language. It sounds like it ought to
be Haruchai music.
And on the Golden Ring _Five Days Singing_ album is a
song that made my spouse and me look at each other
and ask seconds apart, "Is that something sung on Starfare's
Gem?" The song is called "Sammy's Bar," and the harmony
has at least six parts (one must disregard the lyrics, however,
to get the full effect.)
I'm curious to know what's on other readers' notional soundtracks!
people, places, and events in TCTC?
I think of Giovanni Gabrieli's Canzon Quarti Toni,
as played by a brass ensemble merged from 3 major
orchestras, as a tone poem to Revelstone. It's in a
minor key and exudes nobility and majesty--and
since it's played by different groups of brass answering
each other across a large space (originally St. Mark's
in Venice) the sacred enclosure has the ideal
setting and acoustics for it!
The friend who introduced me to both TCTC and Sibelius
always said that the minor theme in the last movement of
Sibelius' 2nd Symphony reminded her of the scene in
Coercri at the end of The Wounded Land. I heard the
symphony first, but after I'd read the books I agreed.
On Gordon Bok's album _Dear to Our Island_ there's
a Mongolian song sung unaccompanied by the Quasimodal
Chorus; I don't remember its title and probably couldn't spell
it in the original language. It sounds like it ought to
be Haruchai music.
And on the Golden Ring _Five Days Singing_ album is a
song that made my spouse and me look at each other
and ask seconds apart, "Is that something sung on Starfare's
Gem?" The song is called "Sammy's Bar," and the harmony
has at least six parts (one must disregard the lyrics, however,
to get the full effect.)
I'm curious to know what's on other readers' notional soundtracks!
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Well....it's not classical, but there is one song...."Save Yourself" by Stabbing Westward made me think of TC the first time I heard it, and it's now a permanent association, because of the chorus mostly......
"I cannot save you
I can't even save myself
You cannot save me
You can't even save yourself
So just save yourself!"
It sounds very angry and bitter, just like TC in the LFB
"I cannot save you
I can't even save myself
You cannot save me
You can't even save yourself
So just save yourself!"
It sounds very angry and bitter, just like TC in the LFB
"If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do."
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Wasn't a thread just like this stared a few years back?
Sounds very familiar. (Casting Couch?)
Instrumentals are used quite often for sountracks.
(Any Alan Parsons fans?)
"Marooned" by Pink Floyd - The Wounded Land: When Thomas searches through Coercri after the Ravers had attacked.
"Sirius" by Alan Parsons Project - IllEarth War: About any scene that Hile Troy's army rides into battle.
But then again... what do I know.
Sounds very familiar. (Casting Couch?)
Instrumentals are used quite often for sountracks.
(Any Alan Parsons fans?)
"Marooned" by Pink Floyd - The Wounded Land: When Thomas searches through Coercri after the Ravers had attacked.
"Sirius" by Alan Parsons Project - IllEarth War: About any scene that Hile Troy's army rides into battle.
But then again... what do I know.
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I think "Don't Touch Me" by Tom Covey and the Landwasters would fit the books.....
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Dandelion will make you wise
Tell me if she laughs or cries
Blow away dandelion
I'm afraid there's no denying
I'm just a dandelion
a fate I don't deserve.
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Tell me if she laughs or cries
Blow away dandelion
I'm afraid there's no denying
I'm just a dandelion
a fate I don't deserve.
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The First album by Asia has a certain feel to it that always reminds me of TIW, which also has that same undescribable vibe to it. No obvious references though, just a doom-and-gloom mood that somehow sits well with the anticipation of battle throuout the book.
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I have a few:
The discussion between Covenant and Lena in LFB just before he rapes her, and the rape itself, is perfectly exemplified by the track "Patricide" by Hans Zimmer from the movie "Gladiator" (the ancient Roman story). This piece is slow and thoughtful at first (the discussion about marriage and Joan), and climaxes in a terrible discordant orchestral clash at the end (the rape).
Also from "Gladiator", the track "The Emperor Is Dead/The Might Of Rome" describes the scene where Covenant and Foamfollower arrive at Revelstone for the first time in LFB. This piece starts with soft female vocals (by Lisa Gerrard) symbolising Foamfollower's exhaustion from pushing the boat up the river. Then, the powerfully heroic motif that follows depicts a dramatic camera sweep showing the awesome size and strength of Revelstone, and then the string crescendo at the end follows Covenant, Foamfollower, Quaan and Bannor into the Keep itself.
I could go on, I could fill a page with music I think fits TCTC, but this'll do for now...
What a pity we have such oppressive copyright laws... I'd love to put together a "TC soundtrack album" of my favourite pieces and give you guys a listen, but sadly, unlike the Land, this world is ruled by corporate greed... 'nuff said!
The discussion between Covenant and Lena in LFB just before he rapes her, and the rape itself, is perfectly exemplified by the track "Patricide" by Hans Zimmer from the movie "Gladiator" (the ancient Roman story). This piece is slow and thoughtful at first (the discussion about marriage and Joan), and climaxes in a terrible discordant orchestral clash at the end (the rape).
Also from "Gladiator", the track "The Emperor Is Dead/The Might Of Rome" describes the scene where Covenant and Foamfollower arrive at Revelstone for the first time in LFB. This piece starts with soft female vocals (by Lisa Gerrard) symbolising Foamfollower's exhaustion from pushing the boat up the river. Then, the powerfully heroic motif that follows depicts a dramatic camera sweep showing the awesome size and strength of Revelstone, and then the string crescendo at the end follows Covenant, Foamfollower, Quaan and Bannor into the Keep itself.
I could go on, I could fill a page with music I think fits TCTC, but this'll do for now...
What a pity we have such oppressive copyright laws... I'd love to put together a "TC soundtrack album" of my favourite pieces and give you guys a listen, but sadly, unlike the Land, this world is ruled by corporate greed... 'nuff said!
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Hey all...new here...just thought I'd say hi...*grin*
Anyway, I don't know how many of you have heard of Loreena McKennitt...she's a Canadian singer, and she does kind of a dark, Celtic style...it's very different...and SO beautiful.
She does a song called "Come By the Hills" that always makes me think of the Land as Covenant first finds it in Lord Foul's Bane...unspoiled (at least compared to the later books), full of legends and song. Here's a sample of the lyrics..
"Come by the Hills to the land,
Where legend remains.
Stories of old stir the heart
And may yet come again
Where the past has been lost
And the future is still to be found..."
I like to think of Atiaran's voice sounding like hers, too.
Anyway, I don't know how many of you have heard of Loreena McKennitt...she's a Canadian singer, and she does kind of a dark, Celtic style...it's very different...and SO beautiful.
She does a song called "Come By the Hills" that always makes me think of the Land as Covenant first finds it in Lord Foul's Bane...unspoiled (at least compared to the later books), full of legends and song. Here's a sample of the lyrics..
"Come by the Hills to the land,
Where legend remains.
Stories of old stir the heart
And may yet come again
Where the past has been lost
And the future is still to be found..."
I like to think of Atiaran's voice sounding like hers, too.
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Loreena is the one I would've chosen to do the LotR soundtrack, if it'd depended on me.
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I, too, am a Loreena McKennitt fan. I hadn't thought of "Come By The Hills" as Land music, but it works perfectly.
"The Two Trees" from her The Mask and Mirror album seems to connect to the mythos. Not exactly as a soundtrack for a particular scene; its warning not to believe the images of ourselves Corruption's mirror shows us is applicable at many different points in the story.
I, too, am a Loreena McKennitt fan. I hadn't thought of "Come By The Hills" as Land music, but it works perfectly.
"The Two Trees" from her The Mask and Mirror album seems to connect to the mythos. Not exactly as a soundtrack for a particular scene; its warning not to believe the images of ourselves Corruption's mirror shows us is applicable at many different points in the story.
W.B. Yeats wrote: Gaze no more in the bitter glass
the demons, with their subtle guile,
Lift up before us when we pass--
Or only gaze a little while.
For there a fatal image grows
That the stormy night receives--
Roots half-hidden under the snows,
Broken boughs and blackened leaves.
For all things turn to barrenness
In the dim glass the demons hold,
The glass of outer weariness,
Made when God slept in times of old.
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Thank you all for the welcome *smile*
Durris, that and "Full Circle" are my favorite two songs of hers! And, Kaseryn, "The Mummer's Dance"...*sigh* I love it...that is the song that first got me hooked on Loreena's music!
OK, I'll stop acting like such a girl *grin*
"Night Ride Across the Caucasus" (again, by LM) is a song that makes me think of just about any scene where they're riding hard, or otherwise traveling with speed...maybe not for the lyrics so much as for the urgent feel of the music.
I'm pretty much always listening to Loreena McKennitt when I'm reading, -- especially when I'm reading Fantasy -- so I could go on like this for hours
Anyway, I'm bound for the shop, to take a good man's advice *grin*
Durris, that and "Full Circle" are my favorite two songs of hers! And, Kaseryn, "The Mummer's Dance"...*sigh* I love it...that is the song that first got me hooked on Loreena's music!
OK, I'll stop acting like such a girl *grin*
"Night Ride Across the Caucasus" (again, by LM) is a song that makes me think of just about any scene where they're riding hard, or otherwise traveling with speed...maybe not for the lyrics so much as for the urgent feel of the music.
I'm pretty much always listening to Loreena McKennitt when I'm reading, -- especially when I'm reading Fantasy -- so I could go on like this for hours
Anyway, I'm bound for the shop, to take a good man's advice *grin*