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TC in the 3rd Chrons

Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 5:34 am
by StoneandSea
You know I wonder... :?:

*winces thinking how he's probably going to get slammed for this*

alot of the speculation about the Last Chrons involves TC back to his old self walking around, fighting Foul, muttering "Hellfire", etc...

thats what I want to see too... TC is what MAKES the 1st and 2nd Chrons...

but what if we are wrong, I mean the exerpt from the reading doesn't even feature TC..

I mean sure, he will make an appearance, but he is
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DEAD :cry: :cry: :cry: , at the end of WGW he is now sort of this all-knowing ghost, and part of the Arch of Time (I always pictured him as sort of like Atlas, holding it up LOL)
So, what form will TC take in the new books, ...and... what's really bugging me... (this is the part where I get slammed)...

will stories of The Land be the same/as good without TC as we know him?

Thoughts?

Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 6:01 am
by Haruchai
You might have to put some spoilers on that, stoneandsea.

Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 6:37 am
by StoneandSea
"spoilers" ?

Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 7:32 am
by CovenantJr
Edit it, putting
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at the beginning, and [/spoiler ] at the end (minus the spaces). Like so:
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See, this way people who haven't finished the Chronicles yet don't get ahead of themselves

Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 1:18 pm
by StoneandSea
I don't understand- we can't discuss the books without fear of "spoiling" it for someone you has yet to read it? Makes it a little hard don't it? :?

BIG Reminder!!!

Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 3:40 pm
by A Gunslinger
Recall my friends that the Law of Death was broken when Elena brought Kevin back.


Anything is possible when you ARE the white Gold.

We'll get TC back.

Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 8:04 pm
by Seppi2112
TC will be back, but considering that likely many years have passed on earth, how many years will have passed for him as the Arch? More importantly... what has Foul been able to do to him in that time?

Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 9:09 pm
by CovenantJr
StoneandSea wrote:I don't understand- we can't discuss the books without fear of "spoiling" it for someone you has yet to read it? Makes it a little hard don't it? :?
Of course we can discuss the books - that's why we're here - but it's a fact that we have members who are still reading the Chronicles for the first time, and it's just common courtesy to either blank it out as above (incidentally, you can read the "spoilered" text by highlighting it) or by placing a warning at the beginning of the post. I for one would have been apoplectic if someone had revealed parts of the plot before I got that far.

As A Gunslinger mentioned, the Law of Death has been broken - SRD himself has hinted that there is no reason for Covenant to remain "dead" in the strict sense of the word. My personal opinion is that Covenant will have an active central role, but probably not in the way we are used to. I would suspect he won't be hiking around the Land quite so much now.

Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 11:42 pm
by Loredoctor
He has grown a mullet. ;)

No, seriously, I suspect that TC will not be so much a central character (as in the first two books) as an important support.

Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 1:54 am
by Caerroil Wildfish
If that's the case, the third series should be titled "The Chronicles of Linden Avery".

Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 5:11 pm
by Baradakas
Valid point Wildfish, but with
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the dead in Andelain not really being "dead", Covenant may be more involved than any of us think....

but, who knows right?

Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 6:42 pm
by A Gunslinger
Baradakas wrote:Valid point Wildfish, but with
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the dead in Andelain not really being "dead", Covenant may be more involved than any of us think....

but, who knows right?
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I agree. All or some the dead in Andelain may physically aid the new quest. I'd love to see Mhoram kick some RAver ass again!
Anyone hear what I'm sayin'?!

Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 8:17 pm
by hierachy
hmmm... I don't think so... "it's not that easy"

Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 8:19 pm
by Baradakas
PLEASE EXTRAPOLATE, YOU WHO HAS NO NAME!

Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 12:18 am
by Akasri
Hmmm... did I miss something?
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The Dead in Andelain aren't really dead?
Was that something that was shown in WGW? Or something that has leaked from posts about Runes?

Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 2:22 am
by A Gunslinger
Akasri,

With the Law of Death broken, and Covenant/The White Gold acting as the Arch of time, the door is open for any of the dead to rise.

Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 4:46 am
by StoneandSea
OK, I "spoiled" my post...


I agree with Noname, it's not that easy, or it shouldn't be- I mean, that's death in the Land, you are just like you were, you gain no additional insight (like Berek in WGW), but you just have no body?
Also you are totally still part of ordinary temporal time? What do they do for all eternity, play cards?
Mhoram: " Read 'em and weep, Ur-Lord."
Covenant: "Hellfire!"

:roll:

Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 8:53 am
by I'm Murrin
I think it'd be interesting to see a Land without death. Would have some interesting results, and give Foul some new ways to work.

Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 9:52 am
by Akasri
A Gunslinger wrote:Akasri,

With the Law of Death broken, and Covenant/The White Gold acting as the Arch of time, the door is open for any of the dead to rise.
But,
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Didn't Linden repair the Law of Death at the end of WGW with the new Staff of Law? Or is it still broken?

Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 11:50 am
by CovenantJr
Again, we have it from Stephen Donaldson himself that the Law of Death is still broken