Kevin's Watch

I said this question so that it doesn't totally give away the fact that Thomas Covenant might have already returned to us...

So say it is Thomas Covenant, will he be a leper?

I mean he was before he died...

But then again, what's the point, as Linden can use the Staff of Law to heal him?

Or is there going to be a reason or something stopping him from being cured?

It depends on how he's been revived. I mean, his body was quite charred when last seen, it'd take some work to revive him, who knows what effects that might have. Then again, being blasted with wild magic might've burned his leprosy away.

Alternatively, if he's been scooped out of time somehow then anything goes...including causality.

In either case, given that hurtloam can fix his leprosy, there's no reason Linden can't use the Staff to do so. Unless SRD retrospectively says that the "banefire alloying" process he went through also melded his leprosy so thoroughly into him that there's no removing it?

Scooped out of time? I doubt it... why has he got Jeremaih with him then?

A fair point. I'm just playing time-travel guessing games without enough information. And "sccoping" TC out of a previous visit would probably be an arch-smashing event... but it does get around the need for resurrection.

On Jeremiah: I don't know, but it occurs to me that one possible reason for Jeremiah's pseudo-autism could be that his mind literally isn't there. Maybe he got mostly translated to the Land a long time ago (2nd Chrons) and has been stuck between worlds, only completing the transition and becoming whole now, as he seemed to be at the end of the book. It would explain his knowledge of Mount Thunder and Revelstone. Perhaps if that were so he could have affected things? To guide him to TC when he came back, by whatever means. Pure speculation I know.

Gart wrote:On Jeremiah: I don't know, but it occurs to me that one possible reason for Jeremiah's pseudo-autism could be that his mind literally isn't there. Maybe he got mostly translated to the Land a long time ago (2nd Chrons) and has been stuck between worlds, only completing the transition and becoming whole now, as he seemed to be at the end of the book. It would explain his knowledge of Mount Thunder and Revelstone. Perhaps if that were so he could have affected things? To guide him to TC when he came back, by whatever means. Pure speculation I know.

But intriguing! I like this theory very much. It would indeed explain how Jeremiah knew enough about Mount Thunder and Revelstone (and the Arch of Time) to build them. And I suppose it is possible that Jeremiah went to "fetch" TC; now that I think about that last scene, that's not a bad description of what's happening. (Although I can't go back and re-read the scene -- I gave my copy of Runes to Romeo to get SRD to sign it next weekend....)

hmmm... I really don't see how Thomas having leprosy can be that important, or possible this time round.

But...you started the topic!

In the grand scheme of things, it's probably not that vital, but his leprosy is a fundamental (if not the fundamental) of how TC views himself, and by extension, how he relates to others. So its presence or absence is relevant I think.

But then again, what's the point, as Linden can use the Staff of Law to heal him?

would he not refuse anyway?
i mean he didnt want the creator to heal him.

Gart wrote:Alternatively, if he's been scooped out of time somehow then anything goes...including causality.

Off topic as it is of me, I'm wondering... if he did get scooped out of time, who did it ?

My money's on Joan

im not being mean or anything but i kind of hope he is. now befor you all get worked up i hope he is because its how do i say this to put it bluntly its part of him if he does not have leprosy then he is just like any other cahacter in the book him having leprosy is part of his personality

regardless if he does or does not have leprosy matters little. He is the person he is because he had it, and his personality was forever molded by the experience.
I think we will see many things in ways that we have never seen them before. The Final Chronicles are not just another series or continuation of a previous set of books. This is THE END, and to whatever context you take that, I think we are (to paraphrase SRD) in store for a wild ride...

Gart wrote: I don't know, but it occurs to me that one possible reason for Jeremiah's pseudo-autism could be that his mind literally isn't there. Maybe he got mostly translated to the Land a long time ago (2nd Chrons) ....Pure speculation I know.

I think this is more than speculation. Roger says that he's been an empty shell for the last ten years.

But if you're looking for disembodied creatures from the second chronicles who might qualify as Jeremiah and his family, my money is still on the Croyel.

(Debunking of the Jeremiah's-Mind-In-The-Land theory is here.)