Kevin's Watch

I'm not sure if any one else noticed this, but I think that Foul wasn't talking about Linden's son. I think he was talking about Joan's son Roger.
Who was going to tell Linden?
Foul says he is content. If the Falls continue unchecked they will break the arch sooner or later, and Foul has all the time he needs.
I think he is using Roger to make sure Joan continues with their creation.

I agree. Foul wasn't even talking to Linden. I assumed that he was instructing one of the Ravers that was tormenting Joan. But with SRD you never know

Does he not later tell Linden that he took her son?

Darth thinks it was Covenant who said that. Personally, I disagree. I think it was Foul, but I have no idea why he said it to some else when Linden was listening. Maybe he was talking about Roger and Joan... Roger was the only thing that penetrated Joan's blank stupor, so he must still be important to her.

how and why did Roger break through Joans stupor, when no one else could...?

Remember Joan was translated before any one else. She was possesed by a Raver. I think Foul was talking to the Raver. maybe Joan wasn't cooperating with what he wanted done (the Falls). Then once Roger was translated, he wanted to use him against Joan.
When Foul says "I am content, she will work my will" (or whatever he said?) I believe he is talking about Joan and the Falls she is creating.

Roger was possesed by someone also. He has too much info, or maybe his mom just filled him in about certain things.
Remember she told him earlier that TC goes someplace, someplace where he makes a diffrence, someplace that he matters.

Also when Linden firsts hears TC voice he tells her not to worry about Jerimiah. Though he doesn't explain??

brinn18 wrote:how and why did Roger break through Joans stupor, when no one else could...?

Joan was sitting in hospital, staring vacantly into space, despite the best efforts of Linden and her staff (not Staff, heh). Roger wandered in, spoke to Joan, Joan responded. Easy. Stupor penetrated by Roger after years of abortive attempts by others.

Re: maybe Joan wasn't cooperating with what he wanted done (the Falls).

Joan was already cooperating in the hospital. The Falls were produced by her self-injury months (years, Land-time) before she was taken into the Land. Which is interesting, since it means the Wild Magic can be exercized from the Real World (though it has no effect here) into the Land. I have a notion why this may be possible: recall that Convenant tried to send Linden back at the end of TOT and this almost certainly violated some aspect of the Law, maybe weakening the barrier between worlds. That weakening may also have been worsened by the anomaly at the end of WGW wherein Linden inexplicably has the Ring when she wakes up. So maybe Foul and the even the Ravers are better able to act across worlds (in the First Chronicles they could not at all, and their influence was very limited in the Second) and the Wild Magic can seep into the Land via the “wormhole” or whatever that Covenant punched through the Arch to send Linden back.

I think Covenant is Foul... because, think about it, Foul said "I have your son" to Linden later on in the book through Anele... but why would Foul tell himself what to say to Linden?

Nom.

CovenantJr wrote:

brinn18 wrote:how and why did Roger break through Joans stupor, when no one else could...?

Joan was sitting in hospital, staring vacantly into space, despite the best efforts of Linden and her staff (not Staff, heh). Roger wandered in, spoke to Joan, Joan responded. Easy. Stupor penetrated by Roger after years of abortive attempts by others.

Well, a couple of possibilities here:

children are the most important people in the world to most moms

--or--

could Roger have had a special guest along for the ride, so to speak? And Joan responded to that visitor?

I'm sure there are more possibilities that I haven't thought of, yet.

duchess of malfi wrote:

CovenantJr wrote:

brinn18 wrote:how and why did Roger break through Joans stupor, when no one else could...?

Joan was sitting in hospital, staring vacantly into space, despite the best efforts of Linden and her staff (not Staff, heh). Roger wandered in, spoke to Joan, Joan responded. Easy. Stupor penetrated by Roger after years of abortive attempts by others.

children are the most important people in the world to most moms

Exactly my point

This is an old post, but I think that now that more people have read it maybe some new light has been added?
Bump!