Kevin's Watch

The following genres Foul hates more than the 80s:

In hell this is the seventh layer.
Doesn't deserve a description.
No comment.

Ah so it's my fault for dumping on Eddie Money in my new topic! I'd take Boston out of that equation. I didn't intend to see them but I got a gig working spot for the Beach Boys and an unnamed band the next night at Jadwin Gym at Princeton U. I was very impressed and I am very discriminatory. Now there's no way I rate them even near Jeff Beck or Floyd, but they're a cut above Foriegner and Kansas and three cuts above Peter Frampton.

danlo wrote:I'd take Boston out of that equation.

Just because they have bad hair doesn't mean they're bad musicians. **mails Foul his old mullet** (don't get your hopes up about that Beach Boys concert either--it was Wilson less and they had a guest drummer...[fortunately this was before John Stamos was on the scene ])

danlo wrote:Just because they have bad hair doesn't mean they're bad musicians. **mails Foul his old mullet** (don't get your hopes up about that Beach Boys concert either--it was Wilson less and they had a guest drummer...[fortunately this was before John Stamos was on the scene ])

Concerning their music: yes, I do agree they're above the standard fare (Journey, Styx, Kansas), but I still think they're stuck in the arena rock tar pit.

Rap.

Lord Foul wrote:

danlo wrote:I'd take Boston out of that equation.

Well, if we're judging by appearances...



I'll choose Boston over the Floyd.

Polka. Sorry all you polka fans.

Edge wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:

danlo wrote:I'd take Boston out of that equation.

Well, if we're judging by appearances...



I'll choose Boston over the Floyd.

Touche! But, come on, that dude has an AFRO! That thing has enough power to warp space-time!

Most rap and most new country.

And Frampton's worlds better than Boston. I can think of few rock bands worse than Boston.

<-- Thinks Boston looks pretty groovy. (sits back and watches Foul fulminate. )

<-- Thinks the Floyd looks schizophrenic.

<-- Has several Floyd albums and doesn't even know what Boston sounds like.

Dragonlily wrote:<-- Thinks Boston looks pretty groovy. (sits back and watches Foul fulminate. )

<-- Thinks the Floyd looks schizophrenic.

Bah, am I so predictable? I'm not going to fulminate this time.

I'm pretty sure Barrett actually was schizophrenic, anyway. But hey, if you're a band that plays something like "Interstellar Overdrive", you have to be a little nutty. Anyway, Floyd wasn't a band for photo ops, as evidenced by their unwillingness to include pictures of themselves in any of their albums after Saucerful. One of the things I like about them: they put an importance on their music, rather than their actual image.

Dragonlily wrote:<-- Has several Floyd albums and doesn't even know what Boston sounds like.

You've probably heard "More Than A Feeling" on the airwaves but didn't know it was them.

Umm, I wasn't exactly alive when Dark Side came out, but every copy I have ever purchased of it has a series of concert photos of the band members inside of it.

Nitpicker.

Thanks for the links, LF. The Wikipedia is a fabulous resource on the Net!

"Arena rock" is a goofy label. It describes a venue, not a genre. Different styles of rock have played in arena settings throughout history.

I think the artists LF is talking about--the late 70's to early 80's bands like Journey, Styx, Boston and Foreigner--might be described as AOR, Adult Oriented Rock. This was the stuff that dominated FM radio. Some of it I liked, most of it I did not.

But none of those bands make me retch the way Air Supply and REO Speedwagon do. They are the worst perpetrators of the schmaltzy pop ballad. That and their shamelessly cheesy music videos inspire the kind of hostility that goes even beyond what I feel for today's boy bands. At least the boy bands can put on interesting dance numbers.

For me, the tired look and tired sound of much of early 80's AOR goes to the heart of why I found the alternative music at the time so much more exciting: U2, The Police, Simple Minds, Talking Heads, Big Country... this was the rock music of my generation. These bands tend to be lumped into the all-encompassing New Wave genre, so I call them post-punk. Which will probably just end up confusing things more.

I haven't listened to much of the newer genres on Lord Foul's list (nu metal, pop punk) but I'm not exactly burning with interest. I'm more a fan of the pioneers of metal, especially Judas Priest, Metallica, and of course, Led Zeppelin. I think the question of which was the first true heavy metal band, Led Zep or Black Sabbath, maybe an entire thread unto itself.

Other least favorite genres: rap, country in general. This may or may not be an official genre, but I'm also not a fan of the singer-songwriter era of the late 60's to mid 70's, epitomized by the likes of Bob Dylan, Elton John, Simon & Garfunkel, Carly Simon and Joni Mitchell. I don't question their cultural significance, but their music leaves me unmoved. Okay, there are some Elton John songs I like.

Matrixman wrote:I haven't listened to much of the newer genres on Lord Foul's list (nu metal, pop punk) but I'm not exactly burning with interest. I'm more a fan of the pioneers of metal, especially Judas Priest, Metallica, and of course, Led Zeppelin. I think the question of which was the first true heavy metal band, Led Zep or Black Sabbath, maybe an entire thread unto itself.

Sabbath's first album came out in 70, whereas as Zep's hit the scene in 69. Personally, I don't care who did it first--it's who did it best, and, to these ears, Zep had some depth, variety, and actually did a little pioneering (though they made baby steps, rather than huge Beatlesesque leaps). By comparison, I think Sabbath is woefully thin (which is pretty damn thin). Plus, they should leave the aimless jamming to talented bands, like Cream, who make it at least marginally entertaining. I mean, Iommi has fast fingers, but his technique is limited, and I also think his solos lack imagination. Of course, Sabbath did manage to concoct some killer riffs, but who wouldn't if you had Ozzy in your band?

Please don't put Zeppelin and Mettalica in the same sentence. They deserve better.

Least favourite genres: heavy metal, speed metal, punk metal, thrash metal, black metal, death metal, and anything else that uses the appalling sobriquet 'metal'.

I'd rather listen to anything else, even polka, than the pseudo-pop-music known as 'metal'.

Wait, wait...I think I get it: Edge and The Dreaming don't like Metallica.

That's okay, Metallica belongs in the Headbanger thread anyway. I don't post there anymore. They're crazy, I tell ya.

(is garrotted by Caer Sylvanus in a dark hallway at the Watch...)

Im not saying I don't like the occasional headbanger, its just to me, a song like Achiles last stand is infinitely more exciting than anything most metal bands make, especially Mettalicca. Pretty much the only Metal band I have any respect for is Dream Theater. They rock.